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Met with DNR Director

Fishbonker

Life Member
The Legislative Committee of the IBA met with the new director of the DNR today. We found Mr. Lande to be open and honest, not to mention a great story teller. He is an avid upland game and waterfowl hunter. He can remember the days when pheasants were everywhere, jack rabbits were in abundance and deer were scarce.

We had an open and frank discussion about increasing the number of NR tags and NRLO tags. He said he has heard from far more NR/NRLOs than residents on this issue. We hit all the points familiar to the argument.

He discussed a plan that would allow NRLOs to hunt their ground every year in exchange for the public to be able to hunt “some” of the NRLOs land. He also discussed the “walk in” plan that was discussed here on IW a few weeks ago. There was a bit of a twist though, the DNR, through a Federal grant, would pay for the landowner to make habitat improvements. In return the landowner would agree to allow public hunting for “X” number of years and if the landowner decided to cancel the agreement the landowner would have to pay back a portion, based on the years they allowed hunting. For example if the landowner signed up for 10 years, opted out after 5 then the land owner would have to reimburse the DNR for 50% of the cost. Our point was that they could opt out and lease the land for more than they had to repay. None of this was written in stone yet.

He touched on needing to find common ground. Using a football metaphor he said we all need to live between the 40’s and not behind the 20’s.

We also touched on Governor’s tags. By his reaction I’m not sure he knew they existed but don’t expect any change there.

All and all it was a good meeting. The meeting lasted about 45 minutes and was more of a get to know each other meeting than setting policy meeting. He knows where we stand.

After the meeting we walked up to the Capital and met with our lobbyist who got us a brief meeting with Rep. Rayhons about the house bill/companion bill to SF 219 (NRLO tags). He is one of the sponsors of the bill. He said the bill is dead. This is not so say it won’t resurface as an amendment to any other bill. We still need to be on watch for the amendments.
 
Apparently we did a better job of contacting legislators than lobbying Lande himself. Is it "correct" to flood Lande's office with e-mails along with legislators? Has that been procedure before? I guess I admit to not sending e-mails to DNR director until this year.
 
Apparently we did a better job of contacting legislators than lobbying Lande himself. Is it "correct" to flood Lande's office with e-mails along with legislators? Has that been procedure before? I guess I admit to not sending e-mails to DNR director until this year.

After today I would send to both.

The Director's email:

[email protected]

 
Thanks for the input ,and for all the work that you and others with the IBA do.I will be renewing my membership at the classic.
 
Bonker, did he expound on what hunting "some" of the NRLO ground meant. What will be the definition of "some"? I probably would not participate. It places NRLO between a rock and hard place. It's saying pay for your farm, come and hunt your farm, oh yea, with others. Not to mention I already have two residents hunt my place when I'm not there. I would have to see the fine print on this one.
 
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"Some" was the term Director used, without offering any details. That would need to have alot of details hammered out, many T's to cross and I's to dot.
It would be a hard sell to give nrlo tag every year and get to hunt a pasture or picked corn field.

This was his suggestion not ours.
 
Randy, Is he just biding his time till HSB-48 goes thru and he gets more authority? How much do we have to fight that one? Hate to see people think the year is over till it really is.
 
HSB 48 hasn't been filed as legislation to be considered yet. Still in the beginning stages. Lobbyists are watching to make sure 48, 219 and 327 don't show up as an amendment to another piece of legislation, which is very possible. Quite certain they will show up in some form. Not out of the woods yet.
 
We had an open and frank discussion about increasing the number of NR tags and NRLO tags. He said he has heard from far more NR/NRLOs than residents on this issue.

The board members of the FOI are intriguing to me. They are some pretty powerful dudes that seem to have been quite successful in their go around. Maybe I am just extremely paranoid :rolleyes: but I have been trying to connect the dots between these guys and Lande. I don't understand why he is so concerned with NRLO usage and tag quotas? Money? Pressure? Favors? Just seems like he would have been straight forward with you guys on the motive?



He discussed a plan that would allow NRLOs to hunt their ground every year in exchange for the public to be able to hunt “some” of the NRLOs land.


HAHA that's a joke right? I guarantee that none of the FOI people would want this! Im sure that they are fighting hard for "their" land rights to have Jo Schmo come in and hunt the ground that they are "Supposedly" trying to manage (that is one of their big arguments). I can't believe that Lande would get any backing form either side on this one! And you know damn well that none of the big wig or famous NRLO's will stand for having Joe Public walking around on his ground! I just wonder where and who the "some" are?

This whole thing has a stench to it! I guess in my mind I'm just picturing Roger Lande, Steve Noah, Mike ussery, Mickey Hellickson, and Mike Sorensen sitting on the porch of their 5000 sq ft lodge in Southern Iowa on 2000 acres, smoking cigars, drinking Templeton Rye :D, and figuring out how to pull one over on us common folk! I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Thanks for the update Bonker and thanks to you guys for your time!
 
HSB 48 hasn't been filed as legislation to be considered yet. Still in the beginning stages. Lobbyists are watching to make sure 48, 219 and 327 don't show up as an amendment to another piece of legislation, which is very possible. Quite certain they will show up in some form. Not out of the woods yet.


Thanks to you guys that keep your eyes open and let us know!

If ANYTHING comes up,please post it so we can get on the ball.

Thanks again and keep up the good work. Its really appreciated by the people that matter.
 
After the meeting we walked up to the Capital and met with our lobbyist who got us a brief meeting with Rep. Rayhons about the house bill/companion bill to SF 219 (NRLO tags). He is one of the sponsors of the bill. He said the bill is dead. This is not so say it won’t resurface as an amendment to any other bill. We still need to be on watch for the amendments.

Um...this bill is not dead! :moon: It was introduced a week ago. It is still in the house and under subcommittee review, as of 2/22...the day you posted this.

SF219 and HF327 can be accessed here (http://www.legis.iowa.gov/index.aspx). Type in HF327 into the 2nd search box. The bill is definitely worth a read.

A summary:
Allows for 6,000 total $1,000 licenses (1 doe & 1 any) for NR landowners (tracts of 80 acres +) and direct family members.

IMO, it appears to be an attempt to raise the demand of land for non-residents and attract the rich people to invest...thereby driving up prices of the land...and therefore, increase the tax base of the state as well. From the way it's written, it would not be favorable for outfitters, but more so for quality deer land managers. After reading the bill, I wouldn't be so against it, as I was before.
 
Um...this bill is not dead! :moon: It was introduced a week ago. It is still in the house and under subcommittee review, as of 2/22...the day you posted this.

SF219 and HF327 can be accessed here (http://www.legis.iowa.gov/index.aspx). Type in HF327 into the 2nd search box. The bill is definitely worth a read.

A summary:
Allows for 6,000 total $1,000 licenses (1 doe & 1 any) for NR landowners (tracts of 80 acres +) and direct family members.

IMO, it appears to be an attempt to raise the demand of land for non-residents and attract the rich people to invest...thereby driving up prices of the land...and therefore, increase the tax base of the state as well. From the way it's written, it would not be favorable for outfitters, but more so for quality deer land managers. After reading the bill, I wouldn't be so against it, as I was before.


What Ever!
 
$1000 landowner

$1000? Then only hunt your own farm...

Not interested, I doubt they would sell 500 of them.
 
$1000? Then only hunt your own farm...

Not interested, I doubt they would sell 500 of them.

If you can afford to buy 80 acres of land in another state, what's a grand if the option is not hunting?
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That $1000 tag would be good for ALL seasons. Hunt till you fill it, with whatever weapon's season is open. I think they would sell like hotcakes.
 
$1000 for a whitetail deer tag

One thousand dollars is still a lot of money, almost twice the current tag price. If the tag is for all seasons, then maybe they would sell a bunch, but I still think it would be under 1000 tags purchased.

$1000 for a whitetail tag, just seems outrageous to me, I've got a kid going to college next year, I would rather put that money toward his tuition than spend a $1000 on a tag...to each his own I guess.

Anyone on this site, willing to pay $1000 for a whitetail tag?
 
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