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Party hunting for archery and muzzleloader season?

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Iowa’s deer management program is designed to provide hunters a variety of choices in the way they hunt. There are two shotgun seasons, an archery season and two muzzleloader seasons where hunters can pursue a buck and antlerless only seasons to help control doe numbers. Each season is designed to provide a different experience for Iowa’s hunters. There are even special seasons just for youth and disabled hunters to be out in the field.

The shotgun season is the traditional season where Iowan's get together and hunt with friends and family. Most shotgun hunters are very effective at killing deer with deer drives. The drives push deer to people who are waiting to shoot. Since deer are unpredictable, one shooter sometimes has the opportunity to kill more than one deer and can do so with a weapon that fires multiples shots. So party hunting makes sense from a practical standpoint. This is the only season where party hunting is legal. (Party hunting is defined as allowing someone to fill another person’s tag.) This is legal during the shotgun season because it matches the way the majority of the people hunt during this season.

Bow hunting also has a long tradition in Iowa but is done in a different manner. Shooting a deer with a bow requires that a hunter get close to deer. Hunters do not push deer to each other, rather they scout for the best places and wait for deer to come close enough to kill. Some very skilled hunters stalk close enough to kill deer. Most of the time hunters only get 1 shot and they want it at an undisturbed deer. Party hunting using drives would make it harder to kill deer if many hunters were pushing deer and making them spooky. So party hunting does not match the way most people prefer to hunt.

The muzzleloader seasons were initiated for hunters who said they wanted to hunt deer with a firearm in a one-on-one experience. These hunters did not like hunting during the shotgun seasons because the drives kept deer disturbed. The late muzzleloader season was created in 1984 and an early season was added in 1987. Both seasons are designed for hunters to hunt deer using techniques similar to bow hunting so party hunting is not legal during these seasons.

There has recently been some interest in making party hunting legal during the archery and muzzleloader seasons. I do not believe this change should be made. I think it would reduce the quality of the experience for those who hunt during the archery or muzzleloader seasons. I believe that a hunter who wants to party hunt can choose to do so during the shotgun season or antlerless seasons. However if they want to hunt by themselves during a time when deer are less disturbed they should be able to hunt during the archery or muzzleloader seasons.

I would like to hear from the readers of this forum, do you think party hunting should be legal during the archery and muzzleloader seasons?

Thanks!
 
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There has recently been some interest in making party hunting legal during the archery and muzzleloader seasons.

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WJS,


Wow, wouldn't have ever expected that.

Where and by whom is this interest expressed?

I for one will give a solid, firm, loud, and resounding two "no's" on that line of thinking.

I gave up shotgun seasons for some of the reasons you mentioned above.

Thanks for asking.
 
We have been die hard bowhunters our whole lives and always shotgun hunted just to watch our land for poachers and tresspassers. We were starting to get frustrated with the number of shotgun hunters and everyone in the county pushing deer around, that is not the way we want to hunt, after all we are die hard bowhunters! So next year we all will just get a few anlerless tags and do the shotgun thing just to watch our land but then get any sex tags to do Late Muzzleloader.

I would like to see the Late Muzzleloader season changed to party hunting cause for us we have a group of 4 people. We all get any sex tags during bow season, then our plan was to get 1/2 doe and 1/2 any sex tags during gun season so we could party hunt but not use up all our buck tags, then during late muzzleloader the 1/2 that got a doe tag during shotgun would get a buck tag during Late Muzzleloader and the 1/2 that got a buck tag during shotgun would get a doe tag during Late Muzzleloader.

Not that our way of hunting would change, we still enjoy scouting adn the whole works that goes with bowhunting (taking summer video, trail cams, shed hunting, hanging stands, planting food plots, etc.)

But if the rules stay as is we all will probably just get doe tags for 1st Shotgun and any sex for Late Muzzleloader, the odds of us shooting a buck during shotgun are slim and non cause we just don't want to go in on our land and jump a deer onto someone else's land. We only shoot bucks 4.5 years old or older and not too many of them travel during shooting hours of shotgun season so we should be fine.

So if they change the seasons that is fine if they don't won't bother me either!

I would HATE to see the archery and muzzleloading seasons turn into the maylay and caos that shotgun season is though, that would really get me fired up!!
 
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No freeking way! I can't express myself any better than that. and Why would they even think of doing this. It can't be because we they want to thin the herd even more.

I am already seeing less deer than I ever have right now in the main areas I hunt.
 
Re: Party hunting for archery and muzzleloader sea

Party hunting during the bow season would be a big negative, seems to me just a way to increase the loopholes in the system and thus increasepoaching on bucks. For example one hunter harvesting 6 bucks in a year while his buddies who just like to hunt deer in general (shoot a couple does a year) let him fill there buck tags, and or his dad who no longer hunts, so on and so on. This is just a bad idea.

As for the late muzzleloader season I personally like it as is, but I can see for some situations (LoessHillsArcher for example) where it could be a decent idea.

However, I have never been a big fan of party hunting in general, I am not trying to stir the pot but to me it isn't all that much of a hunt, it has alot more dangers involved, and gets the deer completely ratteld for the rest of the year.

Keep things the way they are, let the party hunting occur during shotgun only (that gives hunters plenty of time to fill tags) and let the bowhunters and muzzleloader hunters have there periods of calm hunting.
 
Absolutely NO to both! Shooting at running deer with a bow (that's a smart thing) And the deer are spooky enough as it is for late muzz. That's the last thing i want to see!
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WOW! Nuthin like thrown gas on a fire.

In the past,as an experienced party hunter, 90% or better of my shots have been at running deer and I don't think I ever hit a running deer on the first shot. I can't imagine trying to hit a running shot with a bow, althought I know a couple of people that could do it, and with only one shot in a ML, I'd be just as good as throwing the gun at the deer.

If the issue is the sharing of tags, if I fill a doe tag early in the season I can get another the next day and won't have to depend on a partner to have an extra. It will be a hayday for the unregulated outfitters/guides in our State.

If this is designed to see if there are hypocrits amoung the bow hunters who condem party hunting with shot guns, but might be in favor of party hunting for bow, well, I guess you'll have to count the replys. My guess is you'll hear a resounding NO.

The 'Bonker
 
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Absolutely NO to both! Shooting at running deer with a bow (that's a smart thing) And the deer are spooky enough as it is for late muzz. That's the last thing i want to see!
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Pretty much sums up my answer also! The whole shotgun party hunting scene pretty much sickens me as it is, so I would go to any lengths to keep it out of any other seasons.
Thanks for asking our thoughts on this Willie.
 
Absolutely NOT. Party hunting during the archery and muzzleloading seasons will just create more opportunities for illegal harvesting of bucks with anterless tags since I am assuming that certain hunters will now have a way to hunt the other seasons with members of their "party" and shoot bucks even though they did not draw for a buck tag ?? What is the motivation behind this change - I wonder ?????

Also, the basic heritage of the hunting sport will be completely lost if the one-on-one aspect of archery and ML seasons is eliminated. It sure seems like certain people are trying their best to screw up the deer hunting is this state.

OKAY, settle down, breathe deep, relax !!!!!
 
No party hunting for either the bow or muzzleloader seasons. Too many ways to abuse the system. Thanks for the post!
 
Re: Party hunting for archery and muzzleloader sea

Have you ever put alcohol on a fresh wound......that is just rediculous to consider. No to both in my opinion
 
Man, does this get old or what.

Mr. Rayhons will be my first contact.

Might not be a bad idea to attach a link to this thread for those of you emailing.
 
I am appalled to read that party hunting with a bow or muzzleloader is even being considered.
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<font color="red">I will be contacting all of those Natural Resources
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No to both. I'll take it a step further and suggest that shotgun hunters that use fill thier tag should be done carring a gun for the rest of the season.
 
No and no. It just doesn't make any sense. Seems to go against the reason the seasons were created in the first place.
 
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