My first bird with a bow I put it right into his wing butt/shoulder socket area. It went through and busted his leg also, he didn't go anywhere. Last spring I put one right between the wings as he was walking away, he went 30 yards and flopped. If you can get one at full strut put it right up his ol corn hole, that'll kill him. If you're worried about wounding and not finding go for head neck shots, it's a kill or a miss in most cases.