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Switchgrass Seeding

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Switchgrass is the most popular and easily managed native grass in the Midwest. Seeding this warm season grass can vary from region to region and even site to site but there is one fail safe way to get results on your pure stand of Switchgrass, that’s a frost seeding. To ensure the maximum results from your frost seeding, you should broadcast the Switchgrass before February 28th. Even with snow on the ground you should broadcast right on top, the Switchgrass will work its way down to the soil. Ideally it’s best to broadcast right before a good snow and let that accumulation help the Switchgrass seeds settle into the ground.

Then right around April 1st it’s recommended to apply 2 pounds to the acre of Atrazine to your initial seeding. This pre-emergence herbicide will keep most annual weeds from sprouting. Another option instead of using Atrazine is to clip the weed canopy when it blocks at least 50% of the sun energy from getting to the new seedling. This may take up to 6 times the first year to allow the Switchgrass to grow unabated. Both of these approaches help the new seedlings establish themselves in the soil so they can overtake the other grasses, such as brome, that already exist. May 5th – 10th you should spray the field with Round-up to kill the brome, and get rid of any competition for the Switchgrass. Frost seeding Switchgrass will give you a good solid stand with the least amount of maintenance, and provide many years of wildlife attracting habitat and provide excellent hunting grounds.


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Great info. I'm fixing to plant some on an open ridetop that is current just grass. I did not spray the grass this past fall so I'm thinking I should spray the grass in the fall of 2009 and wait until winter of 2010 to frost seed? Would that be the best plan or could I get away with frost seeding this Feb and hope the Atrazine takes care of the grass? Thanks.
 
Do it now, otherwise you'll just be a year behind.

I helped an outfit in MN that plowed in the fall, disced in the spring when dried, and then drilled. 7-10 days after drilling, the acrage was green and we went in and roundup'd everything...by fall it was the thickest patch we planted all year. made a believer outta me, but it's a lot more expensive than the frost planting method.

each situation is unique to itself, but if you can do a fall burn or kill before the undesireables drop their seed...I'd lean towards fall plowing, spring broad casting and then some form of chemical treatment.

One thing drilling does that frost broadcasting doesn't, is give a guy a good idea when the good stuff should be popping. April 1st is a good day to spray, becuase if you kill all the good stuff then the jokes on you /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
 
I sprayed about 8 acres of brome grass this fall after I mowed it- sprayed it 2 times with round-up, a few spots greened back up BUT for the most part it was cooked. I figure i'll frost seed and then hit with round-up and atrazine. Wonder if the round-up is necessary? (obviously before the CIR germinates). Should be pretty cool and I'm excited to see how it turns out.

3 acres I am planting for NRCS and have to do cp-25, it turned green at end of fall so I am worried bout kill. Can't do atrazine. I guess I'll hit with round-up, drill in and just keep it mowed. Suggest a different method? Thanks!
 
Plant a Stand

Regardless of the end use, stands need to be established now! Work continues on various applications for the plant; however, when those applications are realized, establishing switchgrass takes 2-3 years. By starting now and dedicating some marginal land to switchgrass, you can help improve the environment, position yourself to improve the economy in your area, and help decrease our use of fossil fuel. Would you rather be ready or wait and see?
 
Growing Prairies Successfully

Growing Prairies Successfully


I. Two important things to remember.

A. Place seed so it can imbibe moisture from the capillary action of water in firm soil.

B. Plants receive all their energy from the sun so competing canopy must be controlled.

II. Prairie seedlings can not tolerate competition.

A. Regarding the growing season prior to year of prairie seeding.
1. Do not produce any weed seeds on growing area that could sprout and compete against the prairie seedlings.
a. Frequent light tillage will do this if the site is non erosive. Mowing will not do it because plants will head out shorter each time after a mowing and can make viable seed shorter than a field mower can mow. A lawn or turf type mower may be an exception but not practical for a large area.
b. Chemicals such as 2-4D for broadleaves and Roundup for the grassy weeds will kill annuals and thus stop weed seed production.
2. Kill perennial vegetation.
a. With chemicals, the most complete and cheapest kill is when plants are sending carbohydrates down (after heading) to the roots refueling them for the next growing season.
b. Cool season grasses--apply Roundup from September 15th thru October 15th.
c. Scout and inventory all target weeds and tell your herbicide salesperson what you are trying to kill.
d. Broadleaf weeds--apply 2-4D or Banvel to late bud to early bloom stage. Do not plant for 10 days.
e. Most grasses and some broadleaf perennials can be killed in the spring of the seeding year with heavier application rates and of course, more cost per acre, but the kill will be more complete.
f. For the best kill, apply chemical, wait ten or more days and then do heavy tillage.

B. Regarding first growing season (seedling year) of prairies.
1. Use repeated pre-planting light tillage to encourage weed sprouting and weed seedling destruction until you eventually deplete the weed seed bank to a tolerable level prior to planting. Used mostly by those who do not like chemicals or are planting in a field with high weed pressure. A June 10th planting works good except some forbs and switchgrass benefit from early spring planting. When last tillage is done at night, the weed seeds don’t sprout very well.
2. Use pre-emergence or early post emergence chemicals.
a. Switchgrass or Big Bluestem—Use Dual (l quart/acre) pre-emergence to stop germination of grassy weeds. Atrazine, princep or Simazine @ 1 quart/acre will stop germination of broadleaf weeds. One quart of Bicep is best to stop both broadleaf and grass weeds. Pre-emergence works best when applied early enough to get activated by 1” of rain before the soil temperature warms enough to sprout weed seeds.
b. Bluestem, Indiangrass, Gramas and some forbs—use four ounces Plateau pre-emergence or early post emergence to prevent broadleaf and grass weeds from sprouting. Poor results on Pigweed family. Four ounces of Pursuit works equally well but not labeled.
c. Pure grass prairies—2-4D is good to kill broadleaf weeds but is not labeled for any grasses with 4 leaves or less, so use minimum rate to minimize damage to grass seedlings. Use Buctril for very small weeds, it’s easier on the grasses.
3. Mowing or grazing as often as needed to ensure the prairie seedlings get direct sunlight. Cutting off the top of prairie seedlings is okay. Do not leave a heavy windrow that could smother seedlings. Mowing six times is best the first year.
4. Delayed planting because of pre-plant tillage, use of hervicides, mowing, or grazing will stress your prairie seedlings. It is our contention that weed competition will stress them even more, so then it is best to take one of the above actions.

C. Prairie seeds need to be firmly embedded into moist soil to sprout. Embedded depth in this case is 4 times the length or 8 times the diameter of the seed. Most tiny forb seeds need light to germinate.
1. Drill seed the last 30 days before the ground freezes for the winter.
a. Southern Iowa—this is from November 10th thru December 10th.
b. One-fourth planted this way now.
c. Do not need a perfect seedbed for this method.
2. Broadcast (not mechanically incorporated) seed on bare ground or non-crusted snow from The Freeze up to February 28th.
a. The best way to get quick thick stand of switchgrass.
b. Very popular for planting Prairie Mixes.
c. Handy way to plant steep banks or seepy wet bottom ground.
d. Fast way using airplane, 4-wheeler or pickup.
e. Heaving action of the ground and settling of the seeds gets the bottom half of the seed embedded into the soil.
f. Natural Resource Conservation Services (NRCS) requires 50% extra seed when non-mechanically incorporating.
3. Plant into firm moist soil when ground becomes workable in spring.
a. No till with a modern drill
i. Switchgrass seed uses same seed box as clover or alfalfa.
ii. Other prairie grass seeds and forbs with umbrellas require a fluffy box on the drill or a lot of flow able material mixed with it, will carry it through a grain seed broadcaster (not small seed broadcaster). Sand, silica clay, fertilizer or small grain will work for this.
iii. Coulters usually not needed.
A. Coulters help heavy field trash flow through the drill better.
B. Coulters help open up sod so seed is planted in soil and not left
hanging in the leaves and residue.
iv. Burning off residue greatly improves seed placement to get much better seed to soil contact.
b. Drilling or broadcasting into tilled soil.
i. Old rule of thumb…” that a seed bed should be firm enough that a foot print is no deeper than the thickness of a leather shoe sole” still is in effect. This firm seedbed will not have a lot of excess air to dry the seed out plus it will have a lot of capillary pores feeding moisture continuously up to the seed.
ii. If broadcasting (including older drills that used no drop tubes) onto a firm seedbed roll seed into the soil with a field roller or tractor tires, pickup tires etc. Do not harrow in seed because it gets the seed too deep. Packing does a better job of embedding the seed tightly. Use catch pans to monitor evenness of spread pattern and to evaluate seeding rate. Forty seeds per square foot is good for most small seeds.
iii. If drilling with a drill equipped with press wheels, be extremely careful so you do not bury the seed too deep. Drill on a firm seedbed.
iv. Switchgrass seed planted after April 15th benefits from being aged or wet stratified to lesson the dormancy so it will sprout better.
4. Identify new seedlings.
a. Pull plants and identify seed shell that seedling is growing from.
b. Prairie grasses have thinner leaves than the grass weeds.
c. Prairie grasses have deeper roots.
d. Switchgrass has peach fuzz hair on top of the leaf next to the stem.
e. Indiangrass has a tongue protruding up when leaf is pulled away from stem.
f. Bluestems are very hairy all over.
5. Second growing season.

a. Do not burn unless you thoroughly examine the stand to make sure no roots are exposed from the heaving of prairie plant under 6” tall.
b. If you want your prairie grass full size and weed free the second year, apply the herbicides mentioned earlier and fifty pounds actual nitrogen (pure grass prairies only) anyway you want and watch it grow.
c. Without herbicides it may require one early mowing to hold weeds back.
6. Third growing season and thereafter.

a. Apply fifty pounds actual nitrogen per year (pure grass prairies only).
b. Burning is optional.
i. It can stimulate the plants some.
ii. Keeps out intruding woody species and cool season grasses.
iii. Holds down thatch buildup so the mice population won’t get high and encourage fox and coyote predators.
iv. To maintain a insect population so chicks have something to eat, burn only 1/3 of each prairie field each year.
D. Enjoy the beauty, abundant wildlife and the peace of mind from knowing your soil and water are being protected by the prairie.
 
make sure there isn't any residual roundup on the field when you drill the good stuff in.

I would kill it off it the field is green before you get a chance to drill it...and (weather permitting) I'd hit it again at the 7-10 day post drilling if it's green...between days 14-21(+) post drilling the green should mostly be your good stuff...which is why day 10 is kind of a max for spraying because you have to allow 5 days or so for residual...but again it all depends on the weather and the site.

If there is a huge seed bed of undesireables in the soil you may have your work cut out for you. Take lots of pictures if you can, it's amazing to see how the good stuff takes off when you can successfully eliminate the competition right out of the gate.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MN Slick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great info. I'm fixing to plant some on an open ridetop that is current just grass. I did not spray the grass this past fall so I'm thinking I should spray the grass in the fall of 2009 and wait until winter of 2010 to frost seed? Would that be the best plan or could I get away with frost seeding this Feb and hope the Atrazine takes care of the grass? Thanks. </div></div>

Personally I would prefer to see you wait and do it right, but you can seed this winter, spray roundup and atrazine as soon as the cool season grass greens up.

The switchgrass won't germinate until much later in the spring, giving you time to spray before it comes up..

It's just a fine line to get all the coolseasons up and growing in time to kill them good versus mowing the grass in late summer, killing the regrowth in the fall and then frost seeding. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
 
I had my first seeding last March and had a really nice first year stand (other than the two swaths the alflafa farmer put through it!). In any case, I mowed in late August and had some areas "thickEr" than others. Some even went to seed. I was going to frost seed again this winter to "thicken" it up but is this a wastE? Should i use atrazine even if I have a second year stand ready? Thanks.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was going to frost seed again this winter to "thicken" it up but is this a wastE? Should i use atrazine even if I have a second year stand ready? Thanks.
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It won't be a waste although in time, with proper timely burning it will thicken on its own. Frost seeding into the bare or thin spots would certainly speed things up for sure.

Atrazine certainly will help becuase weeds and "junk" will fill in where there is not switchgrass at a rapid rate and slow down the switchgrass progress. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
 
Re: Growing Prairies Successfully

Does Bicep require a license to buy/apply? How does it compare in cost to Atrazine?
 
Can switch be successfully broadcast into corn stubble? Well, more specifically, would the chaff need to be disced up to ensure good soil/seed contact or is the seed small enough to work its' way to the soil over the winter? I'm in Michigan if that matters.
BTW, dbltree...I read the other lengthy thread about switch...great thread! You've done a great job helping out your other sportsmen!
 
Yes, it could be broadcast into corn stubble but I would rather see you chop the stalks first.

Soybean stubble makes the best situation to frost seed switchgrass by far. Very little residue and plenty of care soil surface.

Switch seed is very tiny, so it can work it's way to the soil via rains, snow and the freezing/thawing action of late winter. It just may be a little uneven in corn stubble perhaps, but there is still plenty of bare soil to seed onto.

A no-till drill can be used very effectively on frozen soil and will cut thru residue to get seed to the soil surface if one is avilable to rent in your area. /forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
 
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