cedar creek
Banned
Hardwood11; were you the second to last caller on the radio program? If it wasn't you it must have been your brother!
Daver
PMA Member
I can say with great certainty that there ARE areas in Iowa where there are enough NRLO's, and also resident LO's, that restrict access on their land to such a point that it "bumps" other hunters. Through the years there has been enough "bumping" now, in some areas, that there really aren't any "open doors" left, at least for good quality, relatively uninterfered with hunting.
BTW, I do not count the farmers that invite everyone in the gas station or restaurant to come out to their place and "shoot them all" because they don't want their crops decimated. While there are situations like this to be found, unlimited, "shoot them all" access is not likely to produce what almost all of us on this site would like to have...high quality hunting opportunities for big bucks. (There is one guy here that will happily shoot does and eat their guts, but suffice to say, that is not the norm.
)Although I now own land of my own, I myself experienced this several times in the past and know of several people that have experienced the same. I cannot say how it is everywhere in the state, but in some of the prime big buck territories it progressed to this point a long time ago. That does not necessarily mean that no one can gain permission anywhere in the state, but to deny this effect is just simply incorrect.
Interestingly...I know one particular NR, not a landowner in Iowa, that I keep in touch with every year and he recently told me that he was going to lease a farm in my general area because he could no longer get permission to a farm worth his hunting time. (This is in SE Iowa.)
He knows he will only draw a tag every third year or so, but having access to a high quality area, without other hunter interference, is important enough to him that this is the route he plans on taking. BTW, this guy scouts and shed hunts more in my area, while living out of state, than I do. He is a serious, committed big buck hunter who could probably recite the names of 20-30 landowners, probably more, and why they don't allow him to hunt, etc. Why, if it was so easy to get on quality ground, would he do this? He used to have near exclusive access to multiple high quality farms for archery hunting, most within a short radius around my ground.
The problem is not the NR hunter so much as it is that people have bought ground, or leased it, to such extent in SOME areas that access is restricted to other Iowans. If NRLO's could get guaranteed buck tags every year there are MANY people that understand this whole dynamic well enough to know that the ACCESS issue would escalate even further, and quickly.
Hardwood11
It is going to be a good fall!
radio call
Cedar Creek: I have never called a radio station in my life, but I would be interested in what the second to last caller said?
Why was I compared to him?
Cedar Creek: I have never called a radio station in my life, but I would be interested in what the second to last caller said?
Why was I compared to him?
GregBickal
New Member
Hmmmm, I think I need to gas up my truck and get a bite to eat, anybody know a good farmer hangout! lol
Daver
PMA Member
Good one, I was having a little fun with you there!
Just be sure to wear your t-shirt with your avatar picture on it, that will definitely give you the inside rail with the farmers that hate the deer! 
Fishbonker
Life Member
For the past few months I have had the attention span of a gnat on crack.
I have not had the time nor ability to listen to the whole pod cast but for those that can sit still and listen for a while I’m sure this is worth both the time and effort. Be patient, there is an intro commercial before Mr. Fallon connects to Mr. Litchfield.
http://983wowfm.com/FlashPlayer/default.asp?SPID=36183&ID=2057858
I have not had the time nor ability to listen to the whole pod cast but for those that can sit still and listen for a while I’m sure this is worth both the time and effort. Be patient, there is an intro commercial before Mr. Fallon connects to Mr. Litchfield.
http://983wowfm.com/FlashPlayer/default.asp?SPID=36183&ID=2057858
Daver, your comments are always well thought out and very informative, but I have to take issue with the statement that you don't count farmers who want deer killed. Most farmers/landowners allow hunting for the purpose of declining deer numbers. The 640 acre section owned by one farmer who only allows you to hunt and doesn't care about deer numbers and crop damage are out there, would be the perfect hunting scenario, but are few and far between. If I didn't own land I would be more than appreciative to anyone who granted me permission, and don't think I would be in any position to make special requests. It would be nice for everyone to hunt property with 150's everywhere but how critical does the beggar become?
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