I want to get some GOOD brush pants. Durability is #1 followed by waterproofness, comfort, thorn/briar proof, etc. I'm wanting to use these for spot/stalking, deer drives, and run/gun situations for turkey hunting. Camo isnt necessary since by the time something is in gun range its already too late. Really looking hard at the KUIU Axis Hybrids but open to other suggestions.