Well guys and gals here is a pic of the oldest buck I got within range during the entire month of November. Definitely a 3 yr old. Big ole neck and chest. Chest sort of out of the picture. Buck made it 200 yrds even though both lungs hit. They were hit a bit back though. Exciting tracking just at dusk. Most on here I know would Never shoot a 3 yr old. Especially a busted up 3 yr old. No rack to pose but he was a fighter! My starting age is 3 yrs. not much meat on those yearlings and 2 yr olds and meat is the number one goal. Then why not take does you ask? I do. Took a mature doe also. Sixty five hours and thats my buck. My area has been called one of the poorest for deer hunting but I enjoy the challenge.