Clover

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  1. MuddyHntr

    MuddyHntr Active Member

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    When is an optimal time to start frost seeding into brassicas?
     
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    Has anyone ever had any luck frost seeding into a mowed pasture before? It basically looks like an established lawn mowed pretty short.
     
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    I don't think I have tried that...but the concern would be getting the tiny clover seeds to the soil surface. With any type of sod/grass/lawn, etc, I would think that a lot of seed would lodge in the grass, even if it is short, and NOT be able to germinate then because it doesn't have soil contact.

    Could you spread your seed and then "thatch" the short, mowed grass? I would think that would shake a lot more seed loose to then hit the soil.
     
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    I figured it would be a long shot to get a decent germination rate, I thought about even wasting some money and using 2acres of seed on a half acre. I might give it a shot and see what kind of results I get so I know for the future.
     
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    I think if you do something to shake that seed down to the soil surface you could be OK. Thatch it, drag it, etc, and I think you up your germination %.
     
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    A couple springs ago I wanted to get a plot established. I was dealing with CRP. I went in and mowed it literally as short as I could. Cleaned all the clippings and then spring my seed, fert and lime. Complete failure. If i was to do it all over again I would at least work the ground a little bit and get some of the soil exposed. Or id wait and till it under and start with fresh dirt and worry about the weeds later.....Or wait until the fall and plant clover with the rye(this is what i ended up doing) and establish your plot that way
    good luck
     
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    I tried finding weeds in here - no luck or very little. I had ran a drill through this established clover last September that had some dbltree mix - can see that about 20 feet away or top of clover pic. Frost seeded each year, few clippings & clethodim/crop oil as needed - could have clover there forever in reality if u keep frost seeding it if needed or as cheap insurance to choke everything out after established.
    For fun or lil experimenting.... I left this half acre patch in the middle of a new alfalfa field. I will be able to watch countless nights of deer feeding here & observing their choices of Alfalfa vs clover.

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    Found some discounted, year old “buck on the bag” clover seed. Broadcast into mature rye and then flattened the rye. This about a year later, very happy


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    This small woods plot was a patch of pines but something killed them off around 2011 leaving an opening surrounded by oaks. Its on a ridge top the soil is poor I didn't have much activity in this area and its fairly close to a road but I can access it really good. Now I'm getting daily pictures of doe working through with the majority being daytime. The main key to the success was the lime.

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