Deer Depradation Must Read

Discussion in 'Iowa Whitetail Conference' started by crietveld, Jan 30, 2020.

  1. crietveld

    crietveld Active Member

    Messages:
    361
    Likes Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    leighton ia
    A buddy that is a member of the Iowa Christmas Tree Growers Association sent me an article from their newsletter yesterday. The article spelled out how property owners can shoot deer to protect their property, year round, no permission needed under articles 1 and 23 of the iowa constitution.

    There was a website at the bottom of the article, www.stopthedeerdamage.com
    Scrolled through it this morning, very interesting reading. Down right scary depending on your perspective.
     
  2. AdBot Guest Advertisement

  3. JNRBRONC

    JNRBRONC Moderator

    Messages:
    8,462
    Likes Received:
    521
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Interesting to see Kevin Kelly authoring that letter after being found guilty in March 2007 of killing deer out of season with a rifle.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  4. scottonbuck

    scottonbuck Active Member

    Messages:
    864
    Likes Received:
    57
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    se iowa
    Must be a hell of an 18 acre Christmas tree farm to save him self 2,950,000 in damages.
     
    Daver likes this.
  5. Jdubs

    Jdubs Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,249
    Likes Received:
    143
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    NW PA
    Rifles in the truck, rifles in the combine for coyote control throughout Iowa. Lol. Kevin told on himself is the difference. He was actually honest, not saying right, but honest.
     
  6. Fishbonker

    Fishbonker Life Member

    Messages:
    6,816
    Likes Received:
    718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    The Padded Room
    "Sovereign Citizen" comes to mind. It's been awhile since I read it but I doubt the site has changed.
     
  7. Sligh1

    Sligh1 Administrator Staff Member

    Messages:
    6,510
    Likes Received:
    2,174
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Central, IA
    He must have sniffed a lot of glue and huffed paint growing up. Omg. I own a tree nursery. Around the size of his. The cost of the fence was maybe 1% of the value of what’s inside of it. Completely stops the deer. I would have to shoot every deer on 10-20 neighbors & redo that every couple years to stop deer if I had no fence. 1 man deciding for 10-20 neighbors - that’s called SELFISH or maybe just INSANE. A fence is absolutely not a big deal and beyond easy & common sense. Rabbits & mice & coons kill way more trees than deer- that’s just a fact I deal with yearly. I probably wouldn’t even waste my time arguing with such an extremist.... clearly only cares about himself & feels pretty self righteous with his one sided beliefs that interject no common sense to the public. I have a very similar business & nursery like he does and I can’t begin to express how much I disagree with his stance & how he goes about it. Shameful.

    This is as logical as me saying “Kevin brings in & attracts new plant eating pests from his trees. They come on to my land. I should be able to go over and chop down all his trees!!!”
     
    breckhawk, Kkoppy, Rjack and 3 others like this.
  8. sep0667

    sep0667 Land of the Whitetail

    Messages:
    1,290
    Likes Received:
    214
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Central Iowa
    The coyote control is argument does not make since to me if said farmer does not own livestock. I would think the majority of farmers in the state are corn/soybean farmers. If a farmer does not own livestock what is their need for coyote control? Seriously, help me understand this if I am wrong.

    I have family that farms, nothing but corn/soybeans. Their farms are not in wildlife rich areas at all, very very few occupy their farms. Wide open country, very few deer. They do not like having or seeing deer/turkey etc on their property and honestly they despise them and want them all dead. Yet they will also gladly shoot a coyote too.

    To me it would make sense that if a farmer only farms corn/soybeans here in IA then they should actually want more coyotes. Coyotes eat deer, turkeys, raccoons, etc. that eat corn/beans. In my mind if you are a crop farmer you would want coyotes.
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2020
  9. JNRBRONC

    JNRBRONC Moderator

    Messages:
    8,462
    Likes Received:
    521
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Discussion at the New Years party about hunting, person relating that the farmer told him and his friends to “shoot them all”, pile them up, take what you want. Farmer carried a .22 to gut shoot them so that they made it off the farm so he didn’t have to deal with the carcass. I’ve known farmers with similar views.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  10. Daver

    Daver PMA Member

    Messages:
    5,975
    Likes Received:
    1,227
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Iowa City
    Many years ago I hunted an area where there were truly "too many deer", although as a hunter I wasn't complaining. :) Over the next year or two the population really thinned out and I had no idea what had happened. My friend, who lived in the area, found out that a local farmer was shooting them left and right and letting them lay. That farm would have been about 1/2 - 3/4 mile away from where I was hunting.

    Although I can't say for sure that this was happening, as I never investigated it personally, etc, I suspect that it was true though just due to the radical decrease in numbers in the neighborhood. But it sure made for some fun sits while the population was bugged out. :)
     
  11. Nrharris

    Nrharris Member

    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Benton County Iowa
    Not a fan the way some of you guys are broadly painting farmers. I generally carry a rifle in the tractor with me for coyotes or other varmints. NEVER have I been tempted to poach a game animal with it. I own no livestock, only corn and soybeans. Dont let the actions of a few make you think all farmers are the same. And my dad and my families are completely supported by farming. Farm about 2000 acres between the two of us.
     
  12. Khughes2345

    Khughes2345 PMA Member

    Messages:
    510
    Likes Received:
    49
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    Eastern IA
    I have friends and a lot of family that farm and most all carry a .22 or shotgun in the combine. Usually for those last few rows if a bunch of roosters or some other legal critter flush out the end. They’re not out there shooting all the deer that run out
     
  13. JNRBRONC

    JNRBRONC Moderator

    Messages:
    8,462
    Likes Received:
    521
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Uncased firearm in a motor vehicle? Not sure being a farm vehicle off road changes things, but I could be wrong.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  14. JNRBRONC

    JNRBRONC Moderator

    Messages:
    8,462
    Likes Received:
    521
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Shoot from a farm vehicle if you feel it is sporting.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  15. Nrharris

    Nrharris Member

    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Benton County Iowa
    I've seen coyote hunters do much worse than that. Deer hunters too for that matter. I dont look at shooting coyotes as sport. Just trying to get rid of varmints to protect other wildlife livestock and pets.
     
  16. bigbuckhunter88

    bigbuckhunter88 PMA Member

    Messages:
    3,023
    Likes Received:
    564
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NE Iowa
    Dont think any of the deer hunting or coyote hunting groups around here even use cases anymore. After the concealed carry law was changed a few years ago the local officer said that with a valid permit a loaded gun in the vehicle was legal.
     
    Nrharris likes this.
  17. JNRBRONC

    JNRBRONC Moderator

    Messages:
    8,462
    Likes Received:
    521
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I farm, not anti- farm. Just relating conversations.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  18. Nrharris

    Nrharris Member

    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Benton County Iowa
    No worries. Just didnt want everybody to think that every farmer that keeps a rifle in the tractor is poaching deer.
     
  19. northcedar

    northcedar Active Member

    Messages:
    142
    Likes Received:
    53
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    IL
    FWIW, I've been hearing about the crotchety old farmers who gut shoot deer more and more over the years. Personally I think it's an urban legend for the most part. I know of numerous farmers around here who say the same thing, and I don't personally think they actually do it.
     
    Hardwood11 likes this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice