What I was saying is that if they are not reporting them, then they are ILLEGAL. Another comment, tying into what Sligh posted above. I truly do not know anyone that is shooting 3 bucks a year as a RLO. Certainly some do, but I just can't see where it amounts to anything worth arguing about here. But I do know several people that have gone whole hog on the late antlerless seasons and routinely each shoot 25 to 50+ deer per year. THAT is something that I see and know is happening and is in my mind definitely impacting populations. All I am saying is let's have our debate based on relevant facts, not ancillary ones.