Have to secod Menards... We have been buying the hangons with arm rest and sticks each fall when thy go on sale. Usually $125 per set and I think we have about 25 of these sets... Work good, except we always upgrade to better ratchet strap on the stand. Don't make noise in cold,(have hunted them in -10), easy to set up and take down and the sticks are easy as well. I would recommend them to anyone. This thread came up last year on here and there were quite a few guys who were using them with good luck...