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Have you planted WGF sorghum in the past? Did it get as high or was it closer to the advertised 24-30 inches?

I tried a few different combinations with egyptian wheat, WGF sorghum, and browntop millet this year. My WGF is 36-48 inches tall. If I would have known it'd do this well, I might have skipped the egyptian wheat since it'll be hard to see a flushing bird given EW's extreme height (11'-14'). Then again this year seemed to have a lot of spring rain, so perhaps the WGF height this year is just very unusual. :confused:
 
Have you planted WGF sorghum in the past? Did it get as high or was it closer to the advertised 24-30 inches?

I tried a few different combinations with egyptian wheat, WGF sorghum, and browntop millet this year. My WGF is 36-48 inches tall. If I would have known it'd do this well, I might have skipped the egyptian wheat since it'll be hard to see a flushing bird given EW's extreme height (11'-14'). Then again this year seemed to have a lot of spring rain, so perhaps the WGF height this year is just very unusual. :confused:

This is my first year planting WGF sorghum too and was also surprised at how tall it is, easily shoulder high most places. It was actually stunted because of excessive rainfall at first but it sure did recover.

EW is great screening but WGF sorghum is awesome bird and deer cover! :way:
 
August 29, 2010

The milo heads are filling out!

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The field is kind of pretty now

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Even the flooded areas recovered and is producing seed heads

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The electric fence allowed the beans to recover and produce pods

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The soys were grazed off to the ground before I got the fence up and they are never the same after that...still, they aren't half bad!

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The milo is so thick and dense that it limited the soybeans to some extent also but still the combination is producing a tremendous amount of feed that has the potential to hold deer well into the new year!

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This bean plant was just outside the fence and gives on an idea what they would look like without fencing!

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I'm really excited about next year and an already picking up more posts and poly-wire to expand the field! RR corn and soybeans will make an easy to care for field that I can use Dual II Magnum for season long weed control and glyphosate to clean up any missed spots... :way:
 
Since I put the electric fence up after I planted there are a few places that the soybeans are on the wrong side of the fence and I am surprised there is anything at all left of them!

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Inside the fence it's a different story...

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and the whole place is just a thick mass of soybeans and milo

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I normally shoot for around the 1st of May when planting my soybeans (this past spring we had a hard frost May 9th) but the record breaking rainfall kept me out of the field until nearly June. No big deal for the early maturing milo and soybeans but it does mean they are still very green and growing September 1st....right when I want to overseed winter rye and forage radish.

There are a few places where deer killed the soys by grazing them to the ground before the fence got put up so I went ahead and broadcasted rye and GroundHog forage radish Friday, September 3rd focusing on the spots in the field that had a little "daylight" reaching the ground.

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On the plus side....soil and seed will not be exposed to hot baking mid day sun and surface moisture will be more abundant. Given enough rain to germinate seed, they will have a better chance of surviving until roots can reach deeper into the soil.

On the minus side they may suffer from lack of sunlight if they root and begin to grow before leaves begin to yellow and drop. Our average first frost here in SE Iowa is October 5th...a month away so we'll see how this plays out but clearly there is a distinct advantage to planting at least a portion of ones bean plots to early maturing beans to allow for overseeding rye and radish as leaves drop.

The soys are filling up with pods behind the fence!

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The milo itself needs no protection but this pic shows how easy it will be to add a third wire at the top of 6 or 6 1/2' T posts to help thwart "jumpers"

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Most of the WGF milo is 40 to 60" tall and the occasional forage sorhgum sticking up gives one a better idea of height

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Right now the soys are still vulnerable to my "midnight marauders" so I'm planning on waiting til the soys start to yellow before dropping the fence down... ;)
 
I wish my fence would stay up like that! I have tried peanut butter in aluminum foil hanging on the poly wire and still have to hang it back up every time since the deer monster truck my fence. Whats your secret on how you get the electric to last?
 
I wish my fence would stay up like that! I have tried peanut butter in aluminum foil hanging on the poly wire and still have to hang it back up every time since the deer monster truck my fence. Whats your secret on how you get the electric to last?

You mean they have been running into it an knocking it down? I was afraid they would do that to mine but never had a problem. Have you tried tying flagging tape to it to make it more visable?

I broadcasted winter rye and forage radish into my standing beans and milo nearly two weeks ago now, the beans were still green and the canopy pretty heavy but I went ahead and gave it a shot. I checked them September 15th and both rye and radish seeds had germinated although if you look closely you can see a few seeds on the soil ungerminated yet.

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I was relieved to see that the beans had indeed turned and were drying down although the over all canopy is still heavy

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The pods are drying but looking into the background you can see the ground is still quite shaded

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By design almost nothing in this plot is palatable at this point, the milo is bitter and the beans not yet ripe and deer busy feeding yards away on lush rye and pea plots.

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At this point I can safely take the fence down or at least the ends and allow deer time to figure out it safe to enter yet not worry about the plot being decimated to early.

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Given another 2 weeks the rye and radish will out on some decent growth and attract whitetails as gradually the beans become palatable and later the milo and the whole combination will provide a plethora of food sources literally all winter long.

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For those of you who enjoy enhancing habitat for both deer and upland birds, the milo/soybean combo is outstanding! For deer alone, corn and beans are probably a better option but we'll see how deer utilize the milo as we get into cold weather... :way:
 
October 4th 2010

Keeping food plots screened and close to bedding cover is extremely important and I think this picture illustrates that well. Standing in the milo you can see it's surrounded by tall NWSG and the timber beyond is thick with hinge cut areas so deer adapt to living on my property where all their needs are met...food, bedding and safety.

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I've taken the fence down along the ends of the milo/soybean plot but as you can see they were never without a food source with white clover, falcata alfalfa and red clover plots ringing the milo/soybean plot.

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Back I early September I overseeded winter rye and groundhog forage radish into the standing beans and milo, all still heavily canopied. Thanks to heavy rains the seed all germinated but it's starving for sun

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Had this been soybeans only there would be far less canopy but we had a pretty stout frost last night so hopefully we'll have more sun reaching ground level soon.

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It's time to hunt and stay the heck out of the plots now so I probably won't check on this plot for a while now but I do know that deer are already pouring into the milo and beans...to see what they've been missing.... ;)
 
I am truly blessed now, to have both my farms in the CRP program so that my fields will all be in NWSG to provide more cover and further insulate my food plots.

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The NWSG's provide whitetails with so much security close to their food sources that they scarcely leave.

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They were hitting the white clover hard next to the fenced end to the milo/soybean plot....

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so when I took the end down they immediately started using the plot ending any worries I had previously about them figuring out it was safe to enter.

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The foxtail around the field edge has beaten down runways leading into the milo and beans

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I quietly slipped along the NWSG and stuck a trail cam up near the plot entrance to see what kind of activity is entering the plot.

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The milo/soybean combination is so thick it is more akin to a jungle and I expect many deer are now just living in there. With the rut only weeks away....things should get interesting.... ;)
 
November 11th, 2010

I took advantage of the unseasonably warm weather and brisk wind to slip out and check out the milo and soybean plot. They have pretty well worn runways heading into it...

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The heads are already picked clean along the end

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Hopefully there is enough left to last until the first of the year but it may be iffy

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They are still pounding the Alice white clover plot planted in front of the milo plot also

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I picked up an Gallagher S17 Solar energizer on sale the other day for a different plot in my home farm next year.

I'll be planting separate plots of RR corn and soybeans rather then milo now that I have confidence in the electric fence... our free RR corn and soybean seed is already in storage... ;)
 
December 13th, 2010

I set up a Wildview cam at the entrance to my milo/soybean plot hoping to get some great pics of deer using the plot. The last time I checked it I was disappointed to find that it apparently isn't working properly so I decided to run over and change cams today.

Only about 12 degrees for a high so I went over right after lunch figuring that the deer would be well away from the area bedded down for the day. As I drove in the dirt road I noticed it was strangely absent of fresh tracks that usually cross it from end to end and as I walked along the switchgrass I began to figure out why...they were just living right there!

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Still...my brain obviously numbed by the cold it never occurred to me that deer would actually be feeding in the middle of the day in the milo so when I saw "something" that didn't belong in the milo it took a minute to register....Dah!! Sunny day after a blizzard and bitter cold weather....they were doing exactly what I had hoped they would!

I slipped up to the custom built Lick Creek Blind and just enjoyed watching the deer...warm as toast in there too with the sun shining on it!

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I hadn't planned on taking pictures of deer so unfortunately didn't have my telephoto lens

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At least one buck and a number of does were chowing down on the milo and soybeans

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At 1:00 in the afternoon no less!

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Late muzzy season is only a week away so the cam change will have to wait and my next trip will include not only a different lens but a scoped muzzy too boot!

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The blind has only been there a few weeks but deer had already adjusted to it and the rye was full of fresh tracks only feet away!

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There's nothing like the feeling one gets when a habitat plan comes together! Milo and soybeans protected by electric fence, overseeded with winter rye and forage radish...surrounded by dense NWSG...deer feel safe feeding in broad daylight literally in the middle of the day!

Man...you can't beat that with a stick! :way:
 
December 27th, 2010

I've come to realize that whitetails are a little like women...just when I think I have them figured out, they do what I least expected... :rolleyes::D

We got probably 6" of snow on Christmas Eve so I really expected increased activity in the milo/soybean planting and while that was true I was surprised to watch most of the deer furiously digging in the Alice white clover only feet from the milo??

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By early afternoon I noticed deer slipping under the fence (rather then walk to the area it has been removed)

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Activity picked up as the afternoon wore on...notice the deer with nose pointed upward as they strip the milo heads.

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All the deer that entered the milo plot came from the same bedding area and upon entering the milo...soon disappeared with not so much as a glimpse of them again for the day.

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I used the 3 wire/2fence version this past spring but I am going to the 5 wire/2 fence this coming spring. I watched a huge deer approached the fence and make an easy clean leap over both of them!

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He was much farther away, yet was clearly visible in the milo for a time...after enlarging the picture at home I can see he had already shed one side (or broke it off earlier)

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Very interesting to observe deer that have a number of food source options and their choices of each. I never expected them to choose rye and clover over the beans and milo yet many refused to even look at the milo. Others never looked at the rye and clover and obviously were bedding right beside the "kitchen" in a bedding area except for a few hours spent hinging each winter.

These deer are not traveling but with observation, easily patterned and it would be a simple matter to slip close enough to kill them with the muzzy. The milo is tall enough that it is impossible to be certain how many deer may be in the plot as I can only see the deer that enter from one side. We have a late January antlerless season in which a number of shed bucks are killed each year so having a steady source of feed to hold deer on my property gives some assurance that bucks I have allowed to walk will not be inadvertently killed.

Many landowners overlook the value and importance of providing year around food sources to help hold deer on their property, choosing instead to only offer a food source for hunting season. I want my farms to provide everything a whitetail needs all year long so that living there becomes a...habit... ;)
 
March 1, 2011

Checked the milo/soybean plot the other day...pretty well stripped clean!

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Nothing left but some bedding cover perhaps

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A few tidbits for the birds

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But lot's of evidence of who ate the milo!

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The rye I overseeded into the standing milo is evident now

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and will provide some early spring grazing before I till it under for the next crop

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Milo has some advantages for those who struggle to grow other crops and prefer to avoid fencing and makes great bird cover to boot! :way:
 
September 16th, 2011

We planted a mix of both grain and forage sorghum from Pheasants Forever in between the rows of a tree planting in early July. Earlier planting was prevented due to wet weather and after planting we did not receive a drop of rain until August 30th which is interesting because we can show the significance of utilizing diversified crops that help prevent a total failure due to weather related problems.

I had planted a few rows in June but it failed due to drowning and after 4 years of wet spring/summer weather I took it for granted that 2011 would be more of the same and simply tilled in 200#'s or urea per acre, broadcasted 6-8#'s of milo seed and cultipacked to cover. Had I lightly incorporated the seed, germination would have been swift and growth more robust but because it laid on the top 1/4" of soil and received no rain...it was a tough go and much of it took weeks to germinate and in fact some did not germinate until a significant rain event n late August. I sprayed with atrazine at the maximum allowable rate which is not enough by itself to control pigweed which happily germinated while the milo was delayed although no other weeds were a problem.

Here you can see the dramatic height difference between the forage varieties and the shorter grain srghums

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In no case did the pigweed have any real effect on the sorghum

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and the severe drought did not have any effect on the growth of the sorghum once germinated

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The short grain sorghum or milo is producing some great, highly attractive grain heads, although they are attractive to both deer and birds of all shapes and sizes!

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Some high points are this...

1) Milo can be planted very late and still provide a great source of fall and winter food. Wild Game Food sorghum requires only 60 days to mature and is far less likely to suffer predation by deer then corn or beans.

2) Milo is extremely drought resistant, although less so on sandy dry soils where it should be planted earlier and slightly deeper (2" deep in sand) so this makes mile a viable option in drought prone areas or areas where wet spring weather prevents the planting of longer season crops such as corn.

3) Milo can out compete most weeds if you can provide some initial control with atrazine or simazine is used and if row planted cultivation can be used until plants are high enough to out compete weeds.

4) Like corn, sorghum provides both cover and food but if the shorter grain sorghum is used it is far less susceptible to wind damage. If high tannin milo's are planted, wildlife will not eat the grain until frosts and freezes sweeten the grain which helps insure the grain will be there during hunting season!

More information on the subject of growing milo at this link:

Growing grain sorghum

Seed sources:

Sorghum Seed

PF Blizzard Buster seed

PF Covey Rise seed

Milo loves nitrogen so plan on using 200#'s pr acre of 46-0-0 urea tilled in at planting for best results... ;)
 
Grant Woods had a corn failure and a very bad drought. He planted Milo and it looks great!! Great addition to fill any gaps created by the weather if corn or beans do not take and it is getting late.

Here is the video link of Grant talking about the milo.

http://www.growingdeer.tv/episode/90
 
I was looking over some of the pictures from late last winter, looks like the snow is a little later this year…

Are deer using the Milo much yet this winter?
Would the WGF Sorghum still get some nice seed heads if it was planted by late August? Would it work well with rye?

Next fall I was thinking about trying a rotation of the rye mix in one plot and then a rye mix with Wild Game Food Sorghum or Pacer Hybrid Forage Brassica in the other.

- I have limited equipment, so I think I could just spray and broadcast with these mixes (no tilling)
- It is difficult to get to my planting site (300 miles one way) so this would allow me to fertilize and plant just once a year.

Cons - So I would be giving up some of the brassicas (turnips only), but I don’t have the equip to do these well any way.

Pros- Seems like the deer would have some nice late winter options. Would feed some turkeys too.
 
Would the WGF Sorghum still get some nice seed heads if it was planted by late August? Would it work well with rye?

No and no...sorghum is like corn and needs to be planted at least by early July at the latest and preferably in May. It performs best with herbicides to control weeds and needs plenty of nitrogen.
 
This thread made for a great read. Very very informative as we used to plant some when we pheasant hunted but this year we are going back to it to hopefully add some cover closer to the food plots. Hopefully it will work half as well as yours did!
 
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