Milo

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  1. iowathumper

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    Cooper's Seeds looks to be out of business now. Tel # disconected and web site down.

    Was looking to buy some KS989 Sorghum.

    Any other places to buy it out there?
     
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  3. nemohunter

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    I bought my milo from welters seed, was shipped to my door pretty quick too
     
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    Welters- good people
     
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    And fast too! ^^

    Just another comment on milo...this coming after being at my farm this past weekend. I was very happy to see lots of carryover quail, and pheasants too, as I putted around on the ATV while I was spraying, etc. I had begun to wonder if the long, tough winter had put a hurting on the quail. Well, if it did, there's still plenty of survivors there this spring. There are easily more quail on my place this spring than at any similar time in the past 12+ years. I dare say that I am predicting an outright QUAIL BONANZA this fall! :D

    While I cannot speak from the perspective of a biologist or as a resident expert like Dbltree...I can say that I feel pretty certain that a BIG reason why I am seeing so many quail at my place these days, where there were very few even a a couple of years ago, is the milo that I have started planting in the last couple of years.

    Combine the milo plots, some adjacent switchgrass plots, some nearby edge feathering, a little bit of EW, a few acres of leftover rye and disked up bare ground and VOILA...quail everywhere!! :D
     
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    I had a visit yesterday from a food plotting celebrity...Jesse Knox, Paul's son. :D Jesse is planting milo for me and was at my farm yesterday while we were there and I snapped a few photos to prove to his dad that he really is working out there! :D

    The first picture below I told him that I was going to post it under the title of "Trespasser Alert". But alas, if I did something like that he may not return to drill the seed! :D He is like his dad, always working hard. Here he is in between plots while spreading urea.

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    Here he is later in the day, after returning with the tiller to till in the urea.
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    And a close up...
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    I knew that his dad would like seeing these pics, so I sort of got him to pose for me. :D I saw and heard quail all day long yesterday and these milo plots should be just the ticket for them come this fall/winter. I had about 2 to 2-1/2 acres total of milo last year and after seeing how popular those seed heads were, this year I will have about 5 total acres for those little beasts.
     
  7. dbltree

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    Thanks Dave :)
     
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    I knew you would like the photos Paul. I even have a couple of short video clips that I will try to post too. You and Lori have much to be proud of there!!
     
  9. Hardwood11

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    I bought some today as well. Plan is a nice combo of Milo/Sorghum screened by E Wheat (Plot Screen from Frigid Forage) and one acre of corn, and another 1/2 acre of clover.

    Cover and food...variety (all sitting next to timber and CRP)
     
  10. dbltree

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    <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:RelyOnVML/> <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--> We don’t plant much milo but it is a favorite of mine for many reasons. Grain sorghum has a short growing season of 60-90 days and is very drought resistant. It does well with a crop of weeds which is a perfect combination for upland game birds and whitetails.

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    Grain sorghum generally grows 3-4 ft tall so it easier to hunt then corn and can be drilled or broadcast at 6-8 lbs per acre. Atrazine is favored herbicide but Concep treated seed is available which will allow the use of Dual II Magnum. Dual is non restricted use herbicide so that is an advantage over atrazine which is restricted.

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    Milo comes for our purposes with either white or red seed heads, white is sweet early on and birds decimate it long before hunting season. Red seed has a high tannin content which makes it bitter until fall frosts sweeten it, making the preferred choice for both whitetails and upland game birds.

    Shown in pictures is a mix from Pheasants Forever planted with Egyptian Wheat but I prefer WGF sorghum from Welter Seed.

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    If the goal is to attract and hold whitetails alone, milo holds no great advantage, if however you enjoy a diverse array of wildlife then I encourage you to add milo
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    Jbohn Active Member

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    May 1st is the only planting date I have for Milo that I can do. Going to do 4 acres any thoughts fellas I know that is a tad early , what is going to be the Issues ?
     
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    Daver PMA Member

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    Disclaimer...I am not an expert, but I do consider myself somewhat of an "experienced amateur" on the subject. :D

    I suspect you will not have any trouble getting your milo to grow by planting on May 1, but I think you may run into your seed heads ripening earlier than you really want. I plant milo for both the food(seeds) and the cover, particularly since milo will stand well through the snowy months. Although some deer may use my milo, I am really trying to boost the pheasants and quail...but there are many other birds that freak out on the milo seeds when they ripen...starlings and blackbirds in particular.

    What I have found though is that the early planted milo gets hit extra hard by migrating blackbirds and the seed heads don't last so long with swarms of blackbirds wipe them out. So I prefer to plant milo later, around June 1st. I think it helps to get more seed heads further into the fall for the birds I am really trying to feed.
     
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    One more question I am seeding about 12-15 Lbs a acre broadcast, so for urea should I put down 400LBS of 46-00-00 urea to get about 180LBS of nitrogen or would 200LBS of urea do the trick per acre for MILO, said fertilize like corn but I see some people are not putting as much N to it.
     
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    Did our first milo/sorghum plots this year since CRP wouldn’t let us do corn or beans. They got very weedy and I thought they were a complete loss. But they came through strong! I’m very happy with how they’ll double as cover and food. Going to be a little hard to hunt over but we will find a way.

    *the green milo was mowed twice and kept growing and is in an earlier stage of growth. The mature stuff in the middle isn’t green

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    Milo is the best food I've planted so far. Every day, no matter what, deer passed thru and ate it.

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