Off Topic- Gas vs Diesel Truck

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  1. flugge

    flugge Well-Known Member

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    Well, for years I have ran F-150s and loved them. I put plenty of miles on for various things, 20,000+ a year, but now we have a camper. While the truck is rated to pull it, I know I will be looking for something new in the next year or so. I am having the big debate right now of gas vs diesel. I know I will be bumping up to a 3/4 ton truck, but that is where it goes out the window for me.
    I know diesel up front will cost more, and potential costlier repairs. Will a gas 3/4 ton last as long as the diesel? Or does a person go with the best warranty out there considering mileage the main factor? I know the next 3-5 years will still be really heavy on travel, and then slowing down for awhile after that. Any help or insight?
    What kind of mileage are you guys getting with 3/4 tons? I know I will never get the 21 I am getting now, but something real world would be good to know too. Thanks
     
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    tflogel PMA Member

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    go diesel. last way longer, more power & wildly better fuel economy. There are already multiple 1/2 ton diesel full sized options already on the market with Ford f150 & chevy silverado on the way.

    The other advantages from a 3/4 ton is the fuel economy & the engine is less than $3k more vs. $8-10k more.
    Good luck!
     
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    I have owned both a gas and diesel ¾ ton. Money aside, diesel all the way.

    That being said the ¾ ton gasers have come a long way on their tow ratings. They do have some financial advantages such as initial cost (10-15k), price at the pump (almost $1/gal), repair costs, not dealing with DEF, etc. As far as longevity, diesel will last longer BUT…… friend bought a gas 3/4 ton Dodge and bought a LIFETIME powertrain warranty for very reasonable cost. So, with that in hand its basically a non-issue. If he blows it up, its covered.

    Sidenote....I've been wishing for more diesel choices for years. Glad the Big 3 are finally doing it!!!
     
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    Having owned both my vote would be for a diesel. I currently own a GMC 1500 which I bought after I owned a GMC Diesel. For me I want a smooth quiet truck for those long hunting trips, I loved my diesel but hated how it rode. That led me to purchase another half ton. With that said, diesels have came such a long way since my 2008, they are extremely quiet and smooth riding thus I will be purchasing one when the time comes to replace my current truck.
     
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    As others have said...diesel all the way. When you are pulling some weight, there is no substitute for the torque they have. I own a construction company and we have F-250's in gas and diesel. Once you go diesel, you would be hard pressed to go back to gas, unless you no longer needed to pull anything.
    The new gen F-250's (2017 and newer) are awesome trucks!
     
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    DIESEL!!!!! Wins on power by a long shot. Longevity- diesel again!!! Downside: like above- costs more (but resale be higher later ). & if Super cold- plug in during winter. If u do a lot of pulling- it’s hard on the gassers so that’s another Benefit to diesels. I’ve had both - I can’t think of any reason I’d go back to a gasser. Maybe if I didn’t pull stuff I would. That’s About it.
     
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    You guys have pretty much echoed my thoughts the entire time, but its better to get more opinions
     
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    I'll be the odd man out here. I've owned several of both and currently have one of each. I own the diesel because I need the power for hauling over 25,000 lbs of equipment around for work. I regularly haul loads in the 10,000-15,000 lb range with the gas and I'm no slow poke on the road.
    With the diesel I pay way more at the pump. Oil changes are about triple, especially when the fuel filter needs changed. Not all gas stations carry diesel. I have to worry about gelling up when it's frigid out. I can't just jump in the pickup to warm up quick a minute in the winter, it takes a few miles drive down the road to get heat pumping. Etc. Etc.
    It's not 1970 anymore, a gas pickup is just getting broke in at 200,000 miles. Don't get me wrong, the diesel will outpull a gasser hands down. But no way would I go through all the nuances and expense
    of owning a diesel just to tow a camper around once in a while.
     
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    My thinking much like above. If only pulling camper handful of times of year I'd also go gas. If often, diesel.
     
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    But a gas doesn't look as cool as a turned up diesel with stacks up the back of the cab blowing black smoke going down the highway. :) Whatever you get, make sure it has tow mirrors fully extended and 40" tires.

    But seriously, I have a gas 1/2 ton V8. Would like a diesel, but don't really have a use for it right now. I just drive it mostly on the highway, farm lanes/pasture, and pull a 27' camper a few times a year. Grew up on the farm with gas and diesel. Always liked the diesels for the pulling power (and black smoke - hey, I was a kid).
     
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    If all you're pulling is a camper, I'd go half ton gas. If you want the extra lug when towing, get the 3.5L Ecoboost. It will ride way better and be way cheaper/less hassle than the diesel. It will pull a camper like a champ, especially with the new 10 speed transmission.

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    How much does the camper weigh?

    I currently own a 2011 Cummins and a 2015 duramax. Diesels are awesome, but expensive to own and maintain. I’m guessing your camper will come in at under 10k and if so I’d have a hard time passing up a nice new 1 ton gasser. If you do get a diesel I’d look into a lightly used one to save some coin.


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    What kind of diesel truck are you running? At 25k you’re likely over your GVWR an GCWR.


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    I agree, depends on how big of camper you have also. I run a gas 3/4 pickup for work and often tow. 5-15k loads behind it with a goose neck and while it would be nice to have a diesel I dont think it would justify the cost. It gets me where it needs to go and does the job , very rarely will it go under the speed limit up a large hill with a load on . It does however see some RPMs and drink some gas when shes hooked up. 6-8 towing, 10-14 highway not towing. 2017 Chevy with 6.0 . The ride sucks though compared to a 1/2 ton. Youll recognize that right away.
     
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    The camper we will be pulling all over the US (not just Iowa) weighs around 5600 lbs dry without gear. Its 29 feet long.... My half ton (3.5 Ecoboost) I am not concerned with the pulling power of the truck, but as someone mentioned earlier, I get more worried about GVWR and GCWR with it. Half tons dont have a ton of wiggle room to play with after I looked at all my specs, thats my main concern about switching to a heavier duty truck. I take in the account of it will pry be "safer" to upgrade to a more suited truck to handle it. Heck, the wifes first 3 trips planned with the camper are 4+ hours away..
     
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    That is pretty light. Go with a 2500 gas to get the GVWR needed (even though a 1/2 ton should have sufficient GVWR I’d think. If money isn’t a concern get the diesel and have fun


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    Disclaimer, I have never had a personal truck that is a diesel, but I can tell you that I too have had the Ford Ecoboost engine and that sucker does pull. I would tend to go with a gasser if you are occasionally pulling a camper...that Ecoboost can do that all day.
     
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    I have had both diesel and gas trucks. I prefer a diesel for hauling my tool trailers but the reality is I don't really need one. A 3/4 ton gasser is perfectly sufficient. If you buy diesel and it is used, I would ABSOLUTELY NOT buy one that has had a programmer installed. I have seen endless repairs from head gaskets/ bolts to transmissions. Not all cost the same but my f-250 cost me 10k to have the head gaskets and head studs done. I hauled my 39' camper to Florida with the diesel and the mountains were no match, same trip with the gasser I had a slower trip but the truck handled it great. Im on the side of ny gas powered and save yourself a ton of money.
     
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    My f150 combined cargo weight is 1860 lbs. Even with four 200 pound adults, you still have 1000 pounds left. I wouldn't think your trailer would have more than 500 pounds tongue weight.

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    I'm sure I'm over. Those ratings are way under what can actually be hauled.
     

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