muddy
Well-Known Member
and another from the area...think this is the guy i contacted. doesn't look like he has anything set up for '05 though.
winterbowshoppe
winterbowshoppe
Wow, lots of people looking for osage. Unfortunately, it looks like the bowmakers are looking for trees up to 12 inches in diameter and 6 foot straight limbless sections. I'm not sure they know what Osage is
. I cant think of any on my ground like that. I'll look closer though when the time comes. All my osage must be fairly young and are pretty twisted. I might try making a nice walking stick before I venture into bowmaking...
After reading osageorange.com, about all the uses and history, I almost decided to let them be. But that faded, I still want to thin em out. Tomorrow night I can check my other email at work and see if I recieved any info from the Tordon rep at Dow-Ag. I was at the local NRCS office the other day about some CRP and asked them about osage, like Old Buck, they said, call the forester. I sent Robert Hibbs of the DNR an email, since I never remember to call when I have time.
Poor Osage, the carp of trees.
After reading osageorange.com, about all the uses and history, I almost decided to let them be. But that faded, I still want to thin em out. Tomorrow night I can check my other email at work and see if I recieved any info from the Tordon rep at Dow-Ag. I was at the local NRCS office the other day about some CRP and asked them about osage, like Old Buck, they said, call the forester. I sent Robert Hibbs of the DNR an email, since I never remember to call when I have time.
Poor Osage, the carp of trees.
B
Bobcat
Guest
TPIG, don't know if you burn firewood, but osage is excellent for the stove. I never pass one up when cutting wood unless I think I can get a stave out of it! Same goes for mullberry as far as good firewood. Also on the mullberry I've seen the deer flock to them when the leaves are turning yellow and dropping off. They really suck them up just like the locust pods.
Danno
PMA Member
OK, Here's a OO story. My brother in law decided to pit roast a hog a few years back. The only wood they had was some hedge (osage orange) that had been cut for firewood. They dug the pit, started the fire, lowered the hog and covered it with tin. Later they recovered what was left-a shoulder blade.
Don't burn firewood but I have heard it burns like coal.
I recieved a response today from Jane Hanson, a pasture and range specialist with Dow AgroScience. She recommended a chemical called Remedy and stated it had more activity on Osage than Tordon. Mrs. Hanson said to mix 1 part Remedy with 3 parts diesel fuel (or some kind of oil carrier). She said to apply this mix to the bottom 15" of the trunk, all the way around, as if you were painting it. Then let the tree stand for about a year to allow it to fully kill the roots. She said it was unnecesary to score the bark in any way, and it can be used the same way to treat stumps covering all of the exposed surface.
Mrs. Hanson also stated Remedy herbicide has no soil residual, and it will not harm neighboring trees you want to keep.
Really this sounds perfect. Quick and easy. Wouldnt even have to thin the timber by cutting the trees, but would stop growth and further seeding.
The only drawback I can see, other than unknown cost, is that I'm not crazy about spreading stinky diesel fuel all over the timber I deer hunt, but if done in the spring I suppose it wouldnt hurt.
Have not recieved a response from Robert Hibbs, DNR forrester.
Thanks to NW IA Scrapper Buck for PM'ing me the link to Mrs. Hanson.
Maybe this info will help you guys out too. Anyone used Remedy before or have an idea of cost?
I recieved a response today from Jane Hanson, a pasture and range specialist with Dow AgroScience. She recommended a chemical called Remedy and stated it had more activity on Osage than Tordon. Mrs. Hanson said to mix 1 part Remedy with 3 parts diesel fuel (or some kind of oil carrier). She said to apply this mix to the bottom 15" of the trunk, all the way around, as if you were painting it. Then let the tree stand for about a year to allow it to fully kill the roots. She said it was unnecesary to score the bark in any way, and it can be used the same way to treat stumps covering all of the exposed surface.
Mrs. Hanson also stated Remedy herbicide has no soil residual, and it will not harm neighboring trees you want to keep.
Really this sounds perfect. Quick and easy. Wouldnt even have to thin the timber by cutting the trees, but would stop growth and further seeding.
The only drawback I can see, other than unknown cost, is that I'm not crazy about spreading stinky diesel fuel all over the timber I deer hunt, but if done in the spring I suppose it wouldnt hurt.
Have not recieved a response from Robert Hibbs, DNR forrester.
Thanks to NW IA Scrapper Buck for PM'ing me the link to Mrs. Hanson.
Maybe this info will help you guys out too. Anyone used Remedy before or have an idea of cost?
horkeymike
Member
TimberPig I think Remedy is going to run you around $95-110 a gallon depending on where you buy it.
kevpann
PMA Member
Hey guys been reading about your tree problem. I work for a rural electric power co. and we cut trees all winter long. A few years ago we got a spray that you just spray all the way around the base of the tree and it kills it. It is suppose to be safe for animals and not run off to bad. We just love it, has saved us alot of time and sweat. It's called garlon 4. Hope I was able to help you out. If you can't find any I think most of the rec's in Iowa are using it.
180bc
New Member
Just scanning through, I didnt notice if anyone mentioned it but squirrel and deer eat these things. Squirrel love em, and deer will flock to them when they are hungry. I have seen it many, many times in Kansas. It may be less frequent in Iowa where other prefered food sources are so plentiful. Deer on the open prairie are not too picky.