While watching a pen of captive deer last night, I saw one of the does urinate and a 120" 8 point immediately start sniffing the ground as well as the doe. Then the big boy, a 160 class 10 point went over, sniffed the ground, did a classic lip curl, and urinated on the ground in the same spot. Typical guys, always sniffing around! Nothing doing until the ladies are ready later in the fall.