Smokless ml build? /suggestions.

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    Wi transplant PMA Member

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    I have a rem 700 ml. And am thinking of having a smokless built out of this gun ? Any thoughts on cost of something like this . Also any suggestions on a builder ? Thanks guys!

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    Luke the owner of Arrowhead Rifles is a member of this forum and has built many for people on here and plenty of others.
     
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    Yes thanks didnt know he would start with my 700. Thought he just sold complete guns. Thankyou!

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    He might be booked solid this time of year. Buy an encore frame and stock a then order a barrel from Luke. Solid 300 yard gun then put a good scope on it .
     
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    Just curious why you say that luke? Encore build will do 2400-2500 max. And a 700 ml build will easily do 2800fps. Roughly for the same price. I'm not looking for an argument, I'm just curious why that is?

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    I'm curious also ? Encore 26" barrel . Ml 700 24" how can be faster?

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    Easy to answer. 1) ML 700 smokeless can be barrel up to 30". Most go with 26" and 2) barrel profile much stronger, able to handle hotter loads than the Encore's thinner barrel. In a 700ML conversion to smokeless, the factory barrel becomes scrap metal and is replaced with after market barrel with contour strong enough to handle smokeless. Same goes for the Encore, but one can handle a tougher barrel than the other. Both are decent options. I personally would not do the Encore option, unless I already had an Encore.
     
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    10 4. Thanks!!

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    Try Hollis. I agree with others, I would consider building on a center fire action over 700ML, but I also would go 700ML conversion over an Encore or Scout conversion.
     
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    Anything over 26" on a 700ML is likely going to cause issues. 30" would be really dumb to do.

    If you take 3 shots a year and don't mind a little leakage, sure go with a 700ML. But you're really not saving yourself any $$ on a 700ML build over a centerfire action build. So don't really see much point to build with a 700ML if you're just doing it so you can get hotter loads than an encore build.
     
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    I would just buy a new single shot 700 action and start with that.
     
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    Interesting replies I sold my ultimate 700 built by Luke and am doing a second encore, lighter and shorter.
     
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    Yes, this! Stainless single shot built as requested. Heavy barrel or heavier barrel.
     

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