Yes, the rancher decided to let the elk go to complete waste. It’s their way of life out there, it’s just so different to our way of life.
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TheMadCatter’s 2022 Adventure Thread
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bigbuckhunter88
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Didn't you buy all the antlerless tags for your county to keep people from hunting because you started a guide business? Not so different it seems.
I have the shot on video, and I shot a bunch of animals with this gun/bullet combo and had zero expansion. Copper 150gr E-Tip
Rjack
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Sounds like it is past time for a new bullet or caliber.
hillrunner
PMA Member
Is this just cause they don't like non residents? Did you get any pictures of it from 20 yards away?
No, I can’t speak for what they like/don’t like. Because I know plenty of Resident Public land Hunters who have lost animals this way too.
It sucks, but, it’s the landowners 4th amendment right out here. I’ve decided to set back from social media for a while after all the hate I’ve been receiving from Wyoming Residents and Ranchers just trying to inform them. I’ve been called everything in the book including a bad hunter a cry baby who is playing victim (not the case) just because I shot at a bull in a limited draw area on public land and it ran to private. I’m warning others of what it’s like in Wyoming so they can attempt to avoid my mistake. I needed a bigger caliber and wait a little bit longer for the bull to fully commit to the public (300-400 yard buffer is best). But, I was confident in my abilities and it didn’t pay off for me. A bull suffered (not just because of me in my opinion, but, everybody has those) and meat spoiled/rotted.
I’m going to leave it at that and chalk this in my wild adventures of hunting. It’s definitely a low feeling in my life.
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muddy
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Kind of like the Iowa non resident landowner tag scenario. The laws are right there and you gotta live by them. I'm sorry you had to lose that elk, but if one rancher let some guy riding his fence line get an elk then all of them would be expected to. Can't imagine how many landowners out west have to deal with public land fence riders every year. "Oh, I'm sorry, didn't realize I was 100 yards on your property!" *wink wink nudge nudge*
As stated above, sounds like it's time to look at different ammo that performs better and keep pumping it to them if they're alive.
Again, sorry, that's a rough deal.
As stated above, sounds like it's time to look at different ammo that performs better and keep pumping it to them if they're alive.
Again, sorry, that's a rough deal.
I’m going to go and enjoy my hunting. I’m done posting my adventures for now. I might be back, I might not. I’m not going to worry about it anymore.
Thanks to the community for all you’ve done for me and the positive words over the years.
Thanks to the community for all you’ve done for me and the positive words over the years.
@TheMadCatter I for one, hope you come back. I enjoy reading your stories.
Daver
PMA Member
Not hijack this thread...but I recently had an experience that has me questioning bullet choice on my muzzleloader. When I first started hunting with a muzzy years ago I used fairly conventional lead sabots. To my recollection I had good to excellent blood trails and/or DRT outcomes.
Then along came fancier looking, and presumably more advanced, copper hollow nosed bullets and I started using them. No real reason...I was not dissatisfied with the performance of the lead, I just thought the newer, copper ones would be even better.
So, fast forward a number of years in which I have shot probably a dozen deer with the copper hollow points. I don't think I have ever lost one, but I certainly had several skimpy blood trails, often without an exit wound.
Just last week, realizing that I had finally used up my last copper hollow points and not having time to get them restocked before hunting last Monday evening...I just used one of the lead sabots that I still had. BOOM! DRT, just like days of old. And good blood and an exit wound had the thing run off.
Hmmmm...I don't think I will be spending $$$'s for the copper hollow points anymore. I am far from a ballistics expert, but I think I am better off with the lead sabots.
I'm just going to let everybody know what happened.
Not only did Wyoming Ranchers call my previous place of employment, so did forum posters. Due to my online presence and those who criticized me, I'm temporarily out of a job. Those several who enjoy seeing what I do weren't the ones who called my employer(s), so, they definitely weren't hearing anything positive. I'm upset at the online forum communities for the fraction of individuals who trashed me and I'm no longer pursuing a wildlife career.
I've been on this forum 13 years and I'm no stranger to hate. This new form of hate and constant negative and jealous attitudes from more than a few members (mostly behind the scenes) is unbelievable. Hope you all have a good season this year and great success, including those behind the scenes. But, real quick to show you didn't ruin my fun...I'm great behind the scenes too.
Windwalker
Life Member
Nuts shit happens sorry for the people beat down. Really enjoyed your hunting adventures clear back from when you were teenage hunter up till this crap. I feel for ya hang in there.
hillrunner
PMA Member
I don't remember what you could have done to cost you your job unless there was more to the story.
What were you doing on the set of Yellowstone? You sure have a lot of adventures in life!
What were you doing on the set of Yellowstone? You sure have a lot of adventures in life!
hillrunner
PMA Member
Ok, I looked at the pictures a 2nd time and realized you were part of the cast in the show. That's pretty cool.
