JNRBRONC
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If sap is coming up from the roots through the xylem, something can go down the phloem. Xylem and phloem are the botanical terms for the conductive tissue in plants. Treat away would be my advice.
Daver
PMA Member
Been there!
I feel the same way...I am not yet to the place where I don't kill anything...but I am much more involved in the planning, planting, etc. and love it. Something that I wished that I had done better...TAKE PICTURES/VIDEO. I have had my place for right at 20 years now...I wished that I had documented everything that I have done better...just for my own pleasure in reviewing it later.Consider starting a digital scrapbook now, as a new property manager, I think you will enjoy looking back on it as the years go by.
Totally agree Daver. I am the same way, going on 26 years nowBeen there!
Consider starting a digital scrapbook now, as a new property manager, I think you will enjoy looking back on it as the years go by.
smithhunter1975
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One other question. I have a very thick patch of cedars, locust, and hedge that I want to drop trees and burn similar to Iowabowhunter video. This area is ditches, ravines, and fairly small ridges. Because of this I am not sure it will be great deer bedding, but I am hoping to make it the best it can be. On the sideslopes, should I drop the trees so that they are parallel with the slopes or so that they are up and down the slopes?
Tmayer13
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If your planning to burn it doesn't matter what direction you fell the trees. And with what your dealing with, you just need to worry about getting them on the ground(don't forget to kill the locust, ask me how I know)
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smithhunter1975
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Thanks for the reply. I do plan to burn but assume it will take many years of burning/drying/rotting before the large trees will be gone. That is why i thought it might be important which direction to fell them
hillrunner
PMA Member
Holy cow, that walnut is a beast!
Hardwood11
It is going to be a good fall!
Wow, that makes Aaron look tiny !!
My brother Aaron is fixing up a new farm of his. Loaded with giant or old walnut. A guy named Luke who owns Prudenterra forestry is helping him with this sale. Overwhelming amount of work going on so this was a great option for the timber sale. We doing tsi in a different portion of the farm.
He is a wealth of knowledge!!!!…. Check out vid when have a bit of time, very informative!….
He is a wealth of knowledge!!!!…. Check out vid when have a bit of time, very informative!….
This vid above knocks this out of the park!!!
Sweet video! I would look HARD at tabletop market for that giant walnut. Stupid money!
hesseu
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Some TSI and bedding clearcuts / thickets...Currently have 4 clearcuts approx 1 acre each for bedding completed. Approximately 20 acres of TSI work done on southern slopes. Trying to get another 10 acres done here this spring. H&S around 3-5 acres as well, but I'll be waiting to see if that does it's trick.
An burned 22 acres of NWSG's this weekend
An burned 22 acres of NWSG's this weekend
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smithhunter1975
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That is some great work, you have been busy! Are you going to leave all the brush in those clearcuts? Looks so tangled that there would not be any space to bed. Reason I ask is because i have some small ridges where i want to do the same thing.
hesseu
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Plan on running a fire through there next winter on clearcut #1 picture. Fire in the next couple of weeks on picture 2...and I may run another fire through there next year as well depending on how it does. If it only burns the branches and leaves bigger stuff standing, no big deal.
showstopper
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I have a spot that I worked on yesterday where a bunch of oaks and hickory are growing. Too many trees in this patch though. When cutting down oaks do you hinge or totally cut through and put them on the ground.
The main reason I ask is I don’t want to do something that may harm the oaks I leave. Any advice is appreciated!
The main reason I ask is I don’t want to do something that may harm the oaks I leave. Any advice is appreciated!
Multiple methods…. Double girdle for safety if big. Cut them down is always ideal if they can be done safely.
I would only hinge if u do a few pockets u r wanting hinge bedding. If a guy did “all hinge” for tsi- it would be a disaster & deer couldn’t get through it.
When felling trees: 1) do not tip them into your desirable crop tree. 2) you are at the end of cutting pretty soon here. When oaks come out of dormancy- time to stop. We don’t want warm temps with trees out of dormancy & then getting injured. Getting close to end of tsi season when oaks are part of cutting & in the stand being worked on.
showstopper
PMA Member
I figured it was getting close to the end of time to be able to cut them. I did hinge cut every tree just to try to create something for bedding in the area. The timber is mainly oak and hickory but it is almost all honeysuckle with limited bedding. I thought if I released five to six oaks that maybe they would produce more acorns. They have been really limited in production last few years. These oaks also only have half branch growth on one side of tree b/c of being packed with competition.
Do you think they it is best to finish the cut of the oaks to kill them rather than be hinged? Is there a risk associated with leaving them hinged?
Daver
PMA Member
I have shared this rhyming ditty before, but I will again. As it relates to the seasonal timing of working the chainsaw in the timber...a wise forester once told me, "Do not prune in May or June...or April".
As Skip talks about in the post above this one. You really do not want to be doing much work in your timbers now. It is way better to do that in Jan-Mar. Any bark that is "open" now will invite insect and/or fungus infestation. Oaks, particularly red oaks, are especially vulnerable to wilt, etc, and I don't know of a "better" way to encourage this scourge than to do spring "work" in the timber.
I cut/kill very few oaks, those are the ones I am normally trying to save and release when doing TSI. But, I find that oaks are not the best for hinge cutting. If you need to remove oaks, I would either double girdle them or lay them over.
As Skip talks about in the post above this one. You really do not want to be doing much work in your timbers now. It is way better to do that in Jan-Mar. Any bark that is "open" now will invite insect and/or fungus infestation. Oaks, particularly red oaks, are especially vulnerable to wilt, etc, and I don't know of a "better" way to encourage this scourge than to do spring "work" in the timber.
I cut/kill very few oaks, those are the ones I am normally trying to save and release when doing TSI. But, I find that oaks are not the best for hinge cutting. If you need to remove oaks, I would either double girdle them or lay them over.