JNRBRONC
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Many websites allow polls. Not sure this is one of them. Contact a mod like Muddy or the owner Onecam to start a poll thread. I'd like to see the results.
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bkcrrtnps
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So the only way you can enjoy the outdoors is with a weapon in hand?
bkcrrtnps
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Many people complained all year regarding the lack of buck sightings this year do to EHD, etc. My point of this thread was that reducing the number of any sex tags to 1 good for all seasons would help the number of bucks to rebound. Not necessarily a permanent change but one to help replenish the bucks in the heard......yes doe tags need reduced but that's a different thread. Why do so many RESIDENT LO feel they are entitled to more of the STATES resource than NRLO? Both pay taxes and own land! This squabble comes from selfish RLO. The great American dream is about owning your own land and enjoying what it provides you. You can patrol your land and enjoy it without a weapon in hand! I am a resident landowner who came to Iowa a few years back, sometimes you need to think outside the box and not be selfish. I have met some great landowners who are willing to share and do anything to help fellow hunters out and others who don't want anything to do with a NRLO or NR
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Did you really just say that about yourself? I just laughed and spurted some Mountain Dew through my nose!
Thinkin Rut
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You can sacrifice a year of hunting (killing) with a tag in hand even if everyone else don't. Enjoy the hunt and let them walk.
I knew that would be brought up. Or someone saying "Well how about just a doe tag?". No way would I burn up hours and hours sitting there "waiting" for the yahoo's if I wasn't hunting. Nope, wouldn't happen. It's great to have the focus of hunting and hunting a good buck & then also having those hours and days to watch for idiots (which has happened numerous times years ago- problem people while I'm hunting). I'm not gonna sit in my car or drive around or even sit in the field not hunting. The gun tags for me have been a huge benefit - I look forward to going out both gun seasons on my own land, having a chance at a giant buck and feel a whole lot better I have the "troublesome time of year" covered with my presence on my land.
And remember, my above post still would include my initial post saying that I'd gladly reduce the LO buck tags by 1 buck if we could do a statewide 1 buck tag. I'd do it in a heartbeat and I think most LO's would as well from my experience. Also, ya, the impact of reducing the buck tag to 1 from the general public is going to be a mountain of difference vs the small amount of LO hunters and LO hunters that use all 3. You got my vote!
Baby-G
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Sligh1,
You are dead on! That's why I said reduce every residents buck tag by one and limit doe tags to mirror buck tags.
Could you imagine how quick the great hunting would rebound!!!!
But there are to many stubborn, self serving and greedy people to see the forest for the trees.....
Yes I just posted....... I couldn't sit back and watch any longer..........
You are dead on! That's why I said reduce every residents buck tag by one and limit doe tags to mirror buck tags.
Could you imagine how quick the great hunting would rebound!!!!
But there are to many stubborn, self serving and greedy people to see the forest for the trees.....
Yes I just posted....... I couldn't sit back and watch any longer..........
JUNIOR
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With a 1 buck tag limit as you are saying (2 if landowner), would that tag be good for any season or would you still have to pick a season?
hoosierhunter
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In Indiana we nearly got the gun season removed from the rut until all our weekend warriors laid down in the checkout isle and threw a fit. Ugh our general hunting population drives me nuts!!!
JUNIOR
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One buck tag for any season sounds good to me!
Baby-G
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All these guys that think they should take away the land owner tags should tell the people that own the land this that they hunt on currently.... lol
My money says the guy that make the investimate in the land and does all the up keep will tell you to hit the road and go buy your own land so you might know why he should get the land owner tag in the first place. Land owners are more deserving of getting to hunt there land than anyone else, period!
My money says the guy that make the investimate in the land and does all the up keep will tell you to hit the road and go buy your own land so you might know why he should get the land owner tag in the first place. Land owners are more deserving of getting to hunt there land than anyone else, period!
I honestly cannot imagine a better a way to divide the hunters of this state than by allowing land owners one more buck tag than a non land owner.
Once that happens, we have then established that being a landowner has a higher rank than not owning land.
Enter...the non-resident landowner. He doesn't live here but because he owns land he is now entitled to certain privileges. One of those being allowed deer tags of an as yet to be determined number every year.
I shudder to think what that would do to, well everything. Land prices, deer herd, quality and availability of hunting areas. The list goes on and on.
If you are considering a one buck tag per year it should be for both land owner and non landowner alike.
Some may say "but I own the land. I should get a little more privilege". Sound familiar? Its the banner cry of all NRLOs. And you do get more privilege, you can treat your land how you see fit. You can improve habitat or not. Decide who gets to hunt it (legally anyway). You get the idea.
I'm down with a one buck tag system for a few (5?) years to help things recover. But not forever and not if it isn't the same for all Iowa residents.
Once that happens, we have then established that being a landowner has a higher rank than not owning land.
Enter...the non-resident landowner. He doesn't live here but because he owns land he is now entitled to certain privileges. One of those being allowed deer tags of an as yet to be determined number every year.
I shudder to think what that would do to, well everything. Land prices, deer herd, quality and availability of hunting areas. The list goes on and on.
If you are considering a one buck tag per year it should be for both land owner and non landowner alike.
Some may say "but I own the land. I should get a little more privilege". Sound familiar? Its the banner cry of all NRLOs. And you do get more privilege, you can treat your land how you see fit. You can improve habitat or not. Decide who gets to hunt it (legally anyway). You get the idea.
I'm down with a one buck tag system for a few (5?) years to help things recover. But not forever and not if it isn't the same for all Iowa residents.
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JUNIOR
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For the 2 landowner/one non landowner buck tag(s) for residents system that they are imposing, what's the difference between that and the 3/2 system we use today, only difference is the amount of tags..... You can't just make everyone go to one tag.
Baby-G
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You obviously don't own land.
Land owners are the lifeline for the best hunting the world, public will never compare to private land! If every Tom, Dick and Harry has to hunt public because they don't own land and the landowners all kept their farms to themselves (which I think you deserve to open your eyes) I bet you'd change your tune. I bet you'd change your tune immediately if you ever bought land.
Land owners should have more right and be respected and given the extra tag just like they always have been...
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iowa whitetail
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The deer problem has nothing to do with res lo having 3 tags i get 3 tags never used one of them. most of the land owners that hunt are after a mature deer and its sure not going to hurt the deer if a mature deer gets killed.The hole problem is they have had the doe season and people think its cool to kill something as far away as they can.Then you have ehd that hit us pretty hard.Taking away the doe season and a couple good wet springs it will be good again.
No, I don't own land and I'm not ashamed of it either. I am also ok with the current system we have in place. The discussion at hand is a proposed change to that system. My opinion is that if we change it, it changes for everybody, equally. We're all hunting the same herd. If you would like to talk about the merits of our current system, please start a new thread
Next, if you knew me personally I think you would be surprised to find that my tune would not change regardless of how much private land I had acquired.
NO ONE in anyway, shape or form disrespected any landowning resident! Where did that come from?
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