I was lucky enough to see this buck also. He was a tough one to age. He had features of both old and younger deer. He had been in a pretty tough fight from his appearence. His bottom teeth were busted up and missing, he had a hole thruogh the bottom of his jaw from a main beam (probably) poking through from another deer when they were locked up. He was really running hard by the look of his body. Congrats again Kelly, that is a great trophy! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!