A few months ago I asked the same question and basically got the same answers. Vortex, Nikon, Leupold. I ended up going with the (Vortex) 10x42 Stokes Talons birding series. They are as great as everyone said they were. I really couldnt imagine paying the outlandish prices for a pair of Swarovskis. They are a little heavy carrying them in if you walk a great distance. But other than that, Fantastic! And 4 buck you are right about the net. Normally these are near $400, found a dealer closing them out for a mere $149.