dbltree
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Yours should do great with plentiful soil moisture already Ollie :way:
August 27th, 2011
Overseeding winter rye into other standing crops such as soybeans can work well but success is dependent entirely on enough rainfall to germinate the seed and continued soil moisture to allow the seeds to send down roots. Even when rain appears imminent, it often doesn't rain hard or long enough to do the job leaving us to wonder...how long can the rye seed lay there and still be viable? Usually several months if need be...
We mowed a field of mature rye and clover in July, never received a drop of rain and then in late August I tilled the field to prepare for another planting of the rye mix. A week later when I returned to till n urea I noticed that even without rain, the tilled under rye seed was germinating thanks to a tiny bit of moisture in the soil.
So rye seed can lay on the soil surface for a long time and still germinate when we get sufficient rainfall...one of the reasons why winter rye is outstanding as a food plotters tool...
I finished planting the first field of the rye mix yesterday...P&K and ag lime had been previously applied so I tilled in 200#'s of urea pulling the packer behind and then broadcasted 100#'s of Jerry oats per acre (almost any oats will do)
You can mix everything but I chose in this case to broadcast each seperately
Setting on the Earthway bag seeder
The 50#'s of winter rye seed which is smaller and spreads farther
Setting
then 50#'s of peas...setting roughly like the oats, inoculate is optional for peas since they will be scarfed up quickly
Then I ran tiller and cultipacker back over it to lightly stir the seeds into the top 1-2" of soil and firm the soil to prepare for the smaller seeds. I run the tractor faster but at lower rpms and don't drop the tiller in to full depth for this process.
Cultipacking is a crucial element in all of this but one can use an ATV, tractor tires, heavy plank, light harrow etc. to cover large seeds and firm the soil.
Cultipackers work far better then a flat roller because the ridged wheels support the weight and just firm soil around and over seed with out actually "packing" soil flat like a lawn roller.
In this case we are establishing alfalfa and red clover for hay and to attract deer as well so I sowed 20$'s of alfalfa seed
and 10#'s of red clover along with 5#'s of groundhog forage radish seed
and repacked with the tiller up to gently firm the soil and cover the tiny seeds in the top 1/8" to 1/4" of soil
The ground is desperately dry with no rain in the forecast so it's unlikely that anything will germinate until we get sufficient rains but it will leap to life once the rains return to our area. Please remember to pray for our friends on the east coast as they deal with Hurricane Irene...
August 27th, 2011
Overseeding winter rye into other standing crops such as soybeans can work well but success is dependent entirely on enough rainfall to germinate the seed and continued soil moisture to allow the seeds to send down roots. Even when rain appears imminent, it often doesn't rain hard or long enough to do the job leaving us to wonder...how long can the rye seed lay there and still be viable? Usually several months if need be...
We mowed a field of mature rye and clover in July, never received a drop of rain and then in late August I tilled the field to prepare for another planting of the rye mix. A week later when I returned to till n urea I noticed that even without rain, the tilled under rye seed was germinating thanks to a tiny bit of moisture in the soil.
So rye seed can lay on the soil surface for a long time and still germinate when we get sufficient rainfall...one of the reasons why winter rye is outstanding as a food plotters tool...
I finished planting the first field of the rye mix yesterday...P&K and ag lime had been previously applied so I tilled in 200#'s of urea pulling the packer behind and then broadcasted 100#'s of Jerry oats per acre (almost any oats will do)
You can mix everything but I chose in this case to broadcast each seperately
Setting on the Earthway bag seeder
The 50#'s of winter rye seed which is smaller and spreads farther
Setting
then 50#'s of peas...setting roughly like the oats, inoculate is optional for peas since they will be scarfed up quickly
Then I ran tiller and cultipacker back over it to lightly stir the seeds into the top 1-2" of soil and firm the soil to prepare for the smaller seeds. I run the tractor faster but at lower rpms and don't drop the tiller in to full depth for this process.
Cultipacking is a crucial element in all of this but one can use an ATV, tractor tires, heavy plank, light harrow etc. to cover large seeds and firm the soil.
Cultipackers work far better then a flat roller because the ridged wheels support the weight and just firm soil around and over seed with out actually "packing" soil flat like a lawn roller.
In this case we are establishing alfalfa and red clover for hay and to attract deer as well so I sowed 20$'s of alfalfa seed
and 10#'s of red clover along with 5#'s of groundhog forage radish seed
and repacked with the tiller up to gently firm the soil and cover the tiny seeds in the top 1/8" to 1/4" of soil
The ground is desperately dry with no rain in the forecast so it's unlikely that anything will germinate until we get sufficient rains but it will leap to life once the rains return to our area. Please remember to pray for our friends on the east coast as they deal with Hurricane Irene...
