I own a summit bushmaster and really like it,it is very light at 16#'s and also very queit once you get it together.It grip's the tree well,the only thing it lack's is a back rest.I also owned an API shooting star and thought it was very comfortable but it was a little on the heavy side so I sold it and bought another summit.I never hunt in a climber without a safety harness,as you never know when one will slip!!