I bought a Savage ML10II and haven't looked back. In case you haven't heard, they are factory approved for use with smokeless powder. No more cleaning all the black powder/BP substitute residue! You still can shoot BP and BP subs if you like or if the regulations in your state call for them. Check your state regs to see if in lines, scopes, smokeless powders, etc. are legal before purchasing any muzzleloader.