Gosh, I hate to undercut Swanny, but I want to put in a good word for Vman's trail cameras. I helped him make one for me . . .okay, that's not quite true - I watched him make mine. Anway, he does an excellent job, and really knows his stuff with these cameras. I have gotten some great photos from my camera, and couldn't be happier with it. Now, concering his field judging and shooting deer . . . I'll stay out of that one.