My success during 4th seasons of the past have been in the afternoon....or at least well after fly down. If you can't get between that big tom and his ladies right after fly-down....let him do his thing for a while. Those hens will leave him to go set on their nests. If you want....sneek out of the timber and come back later and you might find a really lonely gobbler. Or, better yet....get comfortable and sit tight. That big ol' bird might remember your calls that you have been making and might come to investigate. I know you have probably heard it before, but patience is the key. I heard a gobbler sounding off one morning last year, but knew I couldn't get to him without spooking. So, I just snuck out of the timber...and came back after lunch. Sure enough...he was on the same ridge, and gobbled right away to my calls. I didn't get him (the 2 jakes with him must have spotted me and eventually led him away) but it was a blast calling back and forth to him and watching him strut just out of gun range.