I've got the original disc SS fluted barrel (orange plastic loaders, no thumb hole stock). Don't use it any more, probably less than 50 powerbelts through it. I've been wondering what they bring but paid $799 new in 2004+- I believe. A friend told me I could only get about $200 today so for that price I will hang on to it incase I get back into muzzy hunting. Never any problems, it was a tack driver, I just got more into bow hunting even late season.