Ive been about 30 yards away from a 160 class deer twice this week!! He's weird, I can drive by at noon, and he'll be on the field egdes already. No way I can get close to get in a stand!!! I went tonight and sat on the ground in a draw near the timber line he usually follows. He went by just before dark about 35 yards away. Wind was perfect, slid in there without spooking him, but couldn't get him to respond to a grunt or anything. Guess I'll just wait and hope the girls get the best of him over the next week or two!! Any suggestions would be GREAT!