letemgrow
PMA Member
That's one way to tell it is a swamp white oak....the other is the long stem on the acorn that comes off at a 45 degree angle. :way:
dbltree
Super Moderator
letemgrow
PMA Member
An oak savanna? Hmmm...good idea! :way:
Thanks for checking us out!
He is a habitat man just like us...I have shipped him some goodies too this year. :way:
Has anyone here had problems with acorn weevils? Our property contains many Bur Oaks and used to be an Oak Savannah according to the DNR. We have a very poor acorn crop and I found some acorns in deer scat that had what I think are weevils in them. Any way to control this? We are starting to TSI it ourselves but don't want to encourage a bigger problem.
letemgrow
PMA Member
I don't know of anyway to stop the weevils...except get every acorn before they hit the ground. :way:
dbltree
Super Moderator
:way:I planted my first acorns last week...first time for everything!
Since most were sprouting I placed the sprout up and planted them roughly an inch deep, however the "sprout" is the tap root and should be placed down.
We have tree tubes coming but for now I marked them with flags and covered the dirt with some grass mulch to keep rodents from investigating
When the I get the tubes on I'll spray around them with gly and oust and we'll see what happens...
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letemgrow
PMA Member
Get those things guarded asap....I planted 20 pounds last year by pressing them in the soil with my foot and the deer went along and ate every single one the next few days after that.
I swear they walk behind me since they know I am planting something they are going to like
I swear they walk behind me since they know I am planting something they are going to like
dbltree
Super Moderator
Get those things guarded asap....I planted 20 pounds last year by pressing them in the soil with my foot and the deer went along and ate every single one the next few days after that.
I swear they walk behind me since they know I am planting something they are going to like
The tubes came today! :way:
dbltree
Super Moderator
They are the Miracle vented tubes that Tree pro sells
Miracle Tube tree shelters
They have plenty of big vent holes where as the TreePro tubes have smaller holes but can be opened up for hardening off.
If one has hundreds of tubes up however, opening them all up every fall could be a pain. These tubes are only 12" to protect the newly planted acorns so it's not really a problem either way.
I'd like to try some of the tall tubes next year combined with fencing to spur rapid growth of some of the hybrid oaks and Dwarf Chinkapins.
Last time I used tubes alone, bucks ripped them off and rodents built nests inside them so fence and herbicide to keep grass killed will be imperative to my using them successfuly...
I need some help identifying a tree...you guy's don't get a picture or nothing! :thrwrck:I can't tell you what the leaves looked like but it had round balls on it that looked simular to an Allegheny Chinkapin.:grin: What other tree has those prickly covers? Maybe some kind of beech (white sand, sunshine and waves crashing).
Maybe some kind of beech (white sand, sunshine and waves crashing).
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kurtish
Member
I need some help identifying a tree...you guy's don't get a picture or nothing! :thrwrck:I can't tell you what the leaves looked like but it had round balls on it that looked simular to an Allegheny Chinkapin.:grin: What other tree has those prickly covers?
Sounds like a beech to me. The spiny fruits are known as cupules and carry two nuts in each fruit. If there was white sand and waves crashing then it's definitely a beach:grin:
letemgrow
PMA Member
Here is my set up that works well for acorns...I tag them so I know what source each came from for future reference and if some shine better than others. These are dwarf chinkapin oaks planted along side one of my apple orchards to make it a better draw. These are from 3 different sources, MO, AL and NE.
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sadam
New Member
Hey all I was just having some things run through my head and I was thinking about one place being a great spot to direct seed some new trees in the future but its about a 6 acre area. After reading a lot of various posts about tree planting I was wondering if the best thing to do to protect a new area of direct seeded trees from deer would be to have fencing put up that doesn't allow the deer to enter. Do any of you think its economically feasible to do something like that or more economical to cage them all? It would seem that high tensile fence about 8 foot tall would keep the deer out. I work at the Washington County Conservation Board during the summers since I am in college and they planted a couple of acres of oaks and walnuts and they put up electrical fencing to keep both deer and rabbits out and a few years ago we took the fencing down because the trees no longer need the protection but they all look great and it appears to have worked well. Let me know what some of you all think. Thanks,
Seth
Seth
letemgrow
PMA Member
I would not be able to afford that type of fencing for 6 acres...the electric may work, but I have lots of problems with deer running through them so I would put it up ahead of the planting so they get used to the fence and learn to avoid it. An old farmers tale I heard was to put peanut butter on aluminum foil on the electric fence so they deer are attracted to the peanut butter and learn to dodge the fence that way. Even after a few years, you would have to worry about bucks rubbing the seedlings as it would take several years to get them big enough that deer would not touch them. Well that is my (02)
goatman
I hunt days ending in Y
There is a nursery that has trees in the country nearby that uses electric fence. I haven't noticed any rubs the last few years. One other note is to use 2 to 3 eight foot ground rods with your fencer. Once or twice with a hard hit and they know its there. Many times a bad ground in dry weather will result in a weak charge.
letemgrow
PMA Member
5,000+ was not stopping these deer, I check it every week to make sure the volts are still up. From what I saw they were already running before the got to the fence so it was just like hitting a vine to them...I watched them do it one afternoon when I was driving through the beanfield and had to spend an extra hour digging the electric back out of the brush.